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[Board of Adjustments on June 4, 2026.]

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THE MEETING, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

THE MEETING FOR THE BOARD ADJUSTMENTS IS NOW IN SESSION AT SIX 30.

ANYONE THAT CAN STAND, PLEASE STAND AND WE WILL BE DOING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, NO INDICATION I TO THE BLACK FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TWO, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN'S COMMENTS? YES, WE DO HAVE ONE CITIZEN COMMENT.

UH, MS. PAULA THOMAS, IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM.

MAYOR, CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING BEFORE WE GET STARTED? YES, SIR.

UH, AND THIS WILL APPLY TO THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL.

CAN YOU SEE A LOT OF MICROPHONES UP HERE? YES, SIR.

WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, MONTHS THAT YOU CAN'T HEAR WHETHER IT IS ON YOUTUBE OR ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

IN THE MEETINGS, IT'S POOR AUDIO QUALITY.

WELL, WE'VE BEEN REASSURED THAT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM TODAY.

AND, AND THE PERMANENT FIX IS PROBABLY LESS THAN TWO OR $3,000 TO GET THIS TOTALLY FIXED, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE DON'T, WE WON'T HAVE ALL THE WIRES AND ALL THAT THAT YOU'RE SEEING, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE PLENTY OF AUDIO SO PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR EVERYTHING AND THAT INCLUDES SIDEBARS.

SO I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

THANK YOU.

STEVE.

DIDN'T, UH, DIDN'T THEY FIX THAT A FEW YEARS AGO? THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT IT IT'S NOT WORKING.

IT'S NOT WORKING.

PEOPLE COMPLAIN CONSTANTLY.

THEY CANNOT HEAR WHAT IS BEING SAID.

IT WAS A LOT OF MONEY SPENT.

WHAT? IT WAS MONEY.

BACK ON THE AUDIO.

OKAY.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MAY, MAY I GET YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE, FOR THE RECORDS? LET'S BE HERE.

YES.

JUST YES.

IT'S PAULA THOMAS.

PAULA, E-A-U-L-A.

THOMAS.

THOMAS, YES.

THANK YOU, MS. THOMAS.

AND THE ADDRESS? YES, MA'AM.

1112 ASTON LANE.

IT'S IN ILLINOIS, TEXAS.

7 5 1 7 2.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YES, THIS IS JUST TO ADDRESS THE, UM, NUMBER TWO OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ACTION.

UH, SECTION 21.

NUMBER TWO, UH, REGARDING, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION OF SIX FOOT TALL WOOD BOARD OR BOARD FENCE LOCATION AND REQUIRE FRONT YARD LOCATION AT 1101 ASPEN LANE, WIL, TEXAS 7 5 1 7 2.

OKAY.

AND, UH, I HAD QUESTIONS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE CAN ANSWER, BUT IT'S JUST, UH, WITH A FENCE WOOD.

IT IS A WOOD, SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE.

WOULD IT BE AROUND THE PREMIER OF THE HOUSE OR THE BACKYARD? WELL, WHAT I CAN, MS. THOMAS, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, WE CANNOT ANSWER, GIVE YOU AN ANSWER, BUT YOU CAN GO INTO CITY HALL AND SPEAK WITH, UH, ANGELICA, OUR, OUR PLANNING CONSULTANT.

MAYOR, LET ME JUST, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT GO RIGHT AHEAD.

THIS ITEM SHE'S SPEAKING TO IS ON THE AGENDA.

WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION OKAY.

TO PROVIDE THAT.

WE'LL GO OVER THE DETAILS AND WHAT SHE'S ASKING.

OKAY.

AND SHE CAN SPEAK AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THIS IS OKAY.

OKAY.

SO I'LL, YOU CAN COME BACK AT THAT TIME.

THERE'S ONE ITEM BEFORE THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. THOMAS.

ANYONE ELSE? NO, THAT'S IT.

THAT'S ALL OF THE COMMENTS.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ITEM NUMBER ONE IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR

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A VARIANCE TO SECTION 21 A FOR 0.1 A AND C OF THE SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATIONS OF THE CITY OF WILMER ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE EIGHT FOOT TALL CHAIN LINK FENCE LOCATED IN THE REQUIRED YARD SETBACK, LOCATED AT 6 0 1 WEST, WEST AND RUN ROAD WILMER, TEXAS 7 5 1 7 2 MBN.

FURTHER DESCRIBED AS SITE L BLOCK, A BLOCK ONE A CS TWO 8.4269.

PARCEL ID NUMBER 5 4 7 0 4 9 5 0 0 A.

0 0 1 0 0 0.

DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS, CASE NUMBER V TWO SIX DASH ZERO ONE.

AND PLANNING CONSULTANT LAURA BOLTMAN PRESENT SOCIETY.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A FENCE AT AN INDUSTRIAL SITE.

THERE'S A FRONT YARD FENCE.

THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW RESTRICTS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BY USE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS INDUSTRIAL USE IS NOT ONE OF THE ONE THAT, THAT ALLOWS THAT FRONT YARD OF PERIMETER FENCE.

UM, THAT IS WHY THEY'RE APPEARING BEFORE YOU.

THIS ISN'T AN INDUSTRIAL AREA ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF TOWN.

UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MATTER, THERE IS NO STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

WE'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP AND EXPLAIN WHAT THE NATURE IS.

OKAY.

EXACTLY.

WHERE IS THIS PROPERTY? THIS PROPERTY, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE LARGER PACKET, IT'S AT 6 0 1 PLEASANT RUN.

SO I, I WENT OUT THERE TODAY AND IF Y'ALL KNOW, YOU KIND OF COME DOWN THAT HILL WHERE THERE'S A SLIGHT CURVE AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE.

UM, THIS IS A HIGHLIGHTED EXHIBIT WE HAVE FROM THE DEVELOPER, UM, BUILDING PERMIT PLAN SET THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE THE FENCE WOULD BE LOCATED THAT NEEDS THE WAIVER.

SO THAT YELLOW LINE IS WHERE THEY WANT THE FENCE THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE IT.

THEY WANT IT TO PROVIDE A SECURE, UM, ENTRANCE TO THEIR WHOLE FACILITY.

AND THERE, THERE'S A APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU GUYS WANT DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THEM.

OKAY.

AND LAURA, THAT IS THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT YES.

CORRECTLY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I I KNOW THE OVERHEAD SHOT DOESN'T SHOW THAT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT THE YELLOW, BUT I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S AT.

YEAH.

AND THEN INCLUDED IN THAT PACKET IS A DIAGRAM OF WHAT THEY PROPOSED MATERIAL WOULD LOOK LIKE AND, UH, IMAGE THEY SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION ILLUSTRATING THE FLATS.

BUT I WOULD DEFER TO THEM ON WHAT EXACTLY THEY HAVE PLANNED.

YOU SAID THAT THEY WANT A EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

MAY I ASK WHY? I DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY WANT AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

I KNOW THE COMPANY.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S THE REASON I'M ASKING YOU.

OH, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

YES.

CAN WE COME FORWARD? SURE, SURE.

AHEAD.

JIM .

HEY, MY NAME'S TIM LYNCH.

I WORK FOR T ONE ENERGY.

UH, THIS FACILITY IS OUR, UH, A SURPLUS WAREHOUSE.

AND BECAUSE OF THE, UH, NATURE OF TRUCK YARDS AND WHATNOT, WE'RE TRYING TO NOT ONLY KEEP PERSONS FROM BEING ABLE TO WALK ONTO AN ACTIVE TRUCK YARD, BUT WE'RE ALSO HELPING OURSELVES BY MAKING IT MORE SECURE.

UH, THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE IS TO PREVENT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE LOCATION.

UM, WE HAVE HAD TWO INSTANCES WHERE COPPER THEFT HAS OCCURRED AT BOTH OF OUR SITES, ONE AT EACH SITE.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THE FEATURES TO HELP ON THE SECURITY SIDE, BUT THE OTHER SIDE IS TO PREVENT LIABILITY BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ACTIVE TRUCK YARD WITH 24 DOCKS THAT WILL BE BEING ACTIVELY UTILIZED THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD GO DOWN TO A SIX FOOT? WELL, I'M SURE WE COULD DO DIFFERENT SIZES.

UM, THE REASON WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO, TO PROVIDE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SECURE FACILITY WITH THE, THE RISKS THAT ARE INHERENT TO THAT LOCATION.

WELL, THE REASON I'M ASKING MM-HMM .

IS CAN SHE PUT BARB WIRE ON THE TOP? WE COULD.

WE THINK IT'S MORE PROFESSIONAL TO DO A HIGHER FENCE THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE IN, UM, WITH A, A BETTER LOOK TO THE PUBLIC ON THE, THE FACE OF IT.

IT'S UP TO YOU

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GUYS IF YOU WANT BARBED WIRE.

I THOUGHT WE WANTED TO HAVE A BETTER LOOK.

WELL, WHAT I WANT AND WHAT I'VE ALWAYS ASKED FOR MM-HMM .

ANY OF THE COMPANIES THAT COME IN, I WANT TREES AND SHRUBBERY.

YEP.

THAT'S TO COVER THAT SO THAT IT LOOKS PRESENTABLE TO EVERYONE.

DID YOU NOTICE THE RENDERINGS? I I WE SUBMITTED? THERE STILL IS TREE AND SHRUBBERY, BUT THERE'S JUST PORTIONS OF THE, UH, BUILDING THAT ALL COME RIGHT TO THE ROADWAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT ACCESS TO.

SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME FENCING TO HELP PREVENT THAT.

UM, BUT THERE'S STILL TREES AND SHRUBBERY THROUGHOUT THE LANDSCAPING.

IS THIS A WR IRON FENCE? THIS ONE IS NOT.

IT'S A, UH, BLACK GALVANIZED COVERED, UM, FENCE WITH SLATS IN IT.

IN FACT, WELL, THAT'S NOT THE RENDERING I SUBMITTED.

THAT'S NOT THE RENDERING I SUBMITTED.

UM, WE HAVE AN EXPEDITOR THAT HELPED US WITH IT, BUT I WILL, UH, PULL UP SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO EXAMINE AS WELL.

WELL, THIS ONE PICTURE HERE THAT LOOKS VERY PRESENTABLE.

YES.

I ACTUALLY TOOK IMAGES FROM THE ACTUAL FACILITY AND PUT THE FENCE IN THERE FOR YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE IT.

LET ME GRAB THEM REAL QUICK.

AND, UH, I CAN ALSO GRAB MY COMPUTER IF YOU NEED, UM, IF YOU NEED TO SEE THEM IN CLOSER DETAIL.

BUT, BUT EVEN IF YOU PUT UP THIS TYPE FENCE, I STILL WANT TREES.

MM-HMM .

AND STRAWBERRY.

YEAH.

UM, LET SEE IF I CAN PULL UP THE PHOTOS SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY TREES AND SHRUBBERY AT THE LOCATION.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER WHILE I FIND THOSE PHOTOS? ALSO? DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CAN I HAVE ONE? UH, THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT IT JUST IN THIS YELLOW SECTION.

IS THAT LIKE THE FRONT, ACROSS THE FRONT? YES.

SO THAT'S THE, THE ROADWAY SIDE, A PLEASANT RUN.

UM, THE BACKSIDE IS GONNA BE A SIMILAR PRODUCT, UH, BUT THE, THE VARIANCE IS FOR THAT FRONT SIDE THAT WE NEED BECAUSE OF THE, THE HEIGHT SIDE OF IT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S THE FRONT SIDE YOU WANT, BUT SO WHEN YOU DO DO THIS, IT WILL BE EIGHT FOOT ALL THE WAY AROUND? CORRECT.

OKAY.

UH, 'CAUSE WE STILL HAVE LIABILITY OF, OF PEOPLE COMING DOWN TO NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS ALSO AN ACTIVE TRUCK YARD.

OKAY.

SO, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT, UM, THIS IS THE SHRUBBERY THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE AT THE LOCATION ALREADY, AND IT'S ALREADY INSTALLED.

IT'S ALREADY BEING ACTIVELY USED THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, SO THERE'S STILL SHRUBBERY PRESENT.

OKAY.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE A FEW MORE TREES.

I, I WANT IT TO WHERE OXYGEN IS BEING PUT OFF HERE IN OUR CITY, AND THAT'S WHAT THE TREES DO.

THE TREES AND THE SHRUBBERY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

UH, IF I MAY, SO DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FENCE AT ALL.

YOU JUST WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL TREES? UH, I DON'T, BUT MY COUNSEL WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.

OR YOU, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM.

YES, MA'AM.

UH, YOU SAID IT'S EIGHT, UH, EIGHT FOOT, WHICH JUST HERE AT THE FRONT? NO, IT DOES RUN AROUND THE, THE REAR, BUT THE EIGHT FOOT IN THE REAR IS NOT, UH, UNDER A VARIANCE REQUEST.

OH.

IT DOESN'T NEED THE, THE VARIANCE IS FOR THE FRONT SIDE? YES.

THAT'S JUST EIGHT FOOT FRONT, SIX FOOT, ALL THE, NO, NO, EIGHT FOOT.

ALL EIGHT FOOT ALL THE WAY AROUND.

OH, IT'S ALREADY GOT EIGHT FOOT.

THE, THE VARIANCE IS RELATED TO THE ROAD SIDE, THE SIDE THAT YOU'RE, THAT'S FACING PLEASANT ROAD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU, SIR.

NO PROBLEM.

AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET YOU A FEW OF THOSE PHOTOS ABOUT THE, THE SHRUBBERY THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM ABOVE.

WE HAD SOME MARKETING DONE BY OUR, UM, LANDLORD, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MANY SHRUBS THAT ARE PUT IN.

I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

I WILL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD.

I SECOND

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YOU.

SECOND.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I, I DIDN'T HEAR IT.

COULDN'T HEAR THE MOTION.

WHAT MOVE FORWARD ON, ON THE FENCE, MA'AM? APPARENTLY ALL, ALL THE WAREHOUSER ARE, UH, ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH THAT HIGH FENCE.

UH, WE, WE, A FEW MONTHS AGO.

OBJECTION.

YES.

UH, ON THE TIRE COMPANY, UH, SAME, SAME DEAL.

IT HAD, UH, ISSUES WITH THEFT.

DID CHIEF PHYLLIS DID YOU SECOND? NO.

UH, KIM.

KIM DID SECOND.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

KIM.

MAY I HAVE A VOTE? YES.

YES.

YES.

AND YES.

IT PASSES FOUR TO ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION 21, A 4.1 A AND B OF THE SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATIONS OF THE CITY OF WILMER STONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SIX FOOT TALL WOOD BOARD ON BOARD FENCE LOCATED IN THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD SETBACK LOCATED AT 1101 ASPEN LANE, WILMER, TEXAS 7 5 1 7 2 AND B.

FURTHER DESCRIBED AS COTTONWOOD VALLEY BLOCK EIGHT LOT FIVE PARCEL ID NUMBER 5 4 0 0 2 5 0 0 1, 0 0 5 0 0.

DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS, CASE NUMBER V DASH 26 0 0 2.

MS. THOMAS, YOU WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT? YES.

PLEASE COME BACK UP.

STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN PLEASE.

YES, MY NAME IS PAULA THOMAS AND MY ADDRESS IS 1112 AVENUE LANE.

AND THAT'S, UH, SEVEN FIVE HILL, TEXAS 7 5 1 7 7.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

OKAY.

I JUST, UH, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

I KNOW I HAD QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST TALK ABOUT THE, JUST QUICKLY THE SAFETY AND CURB, UH, SIDE, UH, SAFETY, UM, MAINTAIN VISIBILITY.

SO WITH THIS FENCE, I'M NOT FOR SURE IF IT'S GONNA BE ALL AROUND THE FRONT AS WELL AS, AND IT'S NOT.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, IF IT'S WOOD, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SEE LIKE I'M AT THE DEAD END, SO I CAN SEE NOW THERE THE WHOLE MY, MY COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE FENCE BEING THERE.

UM, IT'S GONNA MAKE, MAY I ASK ONE, JUST ONE QUESTION, PLEASE? YES.

IS THIS A CORNER HOUSE? YES.

OKAY.

THE RESIDENCE IS HERE.

SO IT WAS JUST THAT CONCERN AND SAFETY AS WELL.

AND ALSO, UH, IF THE, UH, IF, IF ANY CRIME IS EVERYWHERE, BUT IF IT'S ANY CRIME OR A CAR BEING ABANDONED THERE, BECAUSE THE, THE FENCE IS WOOD AND YOU CAN'T SEE, SEE ANYWHERE UNLESS YOU GO AROUND IT.

SO THAT'S A CONCERN AS WELL.

UH, YOU COULD HIDE, UH, WOULD BLOCK WHATEVER'S HAPPENING ON DOGWOOD OR LIKE I SAID, ABANDONED CAR.

BUT THE CURBSIDE, UH, SINCE HE VERY, HE SAID IT WOULDN'T BE IN THE FRONT.

UH, YES.

OR IF I MAY, OUR ORDINANCE ACTUALLY, UH, FROM CORNER TO CORNER FROM YOUR HOUSE, THE FRONT, YOU CAN'T PUT A SIX FOOT FENCE.

OKAY.

AND I, HAS SHE TALKED TO HER INSPECTOR YET, SIR? NO, NO, WE JUST GOT THE LETTER, HER BUILDING OFFICIAL SECOND LETTER BEFORE SHE CAN DO, THAT'S JUST TO COME BEFORE.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, SO, UM, IF THERE WOULD BE A, UH, IF THERE WILL BE A FENCE, UH, SIX FOOT FENCE IN THE FRONT, IT WOULD, UM, BE AN EYESORE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DUE TO, UM, THE HEIGHT.

UH, THERE ARE OTHER HOMES THAT HAVE A FENCE IN THEIR FRONT YARD, HOWEVER, THE FENCE IS A WIRE, I MEAN, UH, IRON OR WIRE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY IT CAN'T AFFECT THE SURROUNDING HOMES PROPERTY VALUE 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE ONLY THE ONLY HOUSE WITH A SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE AND, YOU KNOW, AROUND, UH, PERIMETER.

AND SO I'M NOT FOR SURE WHY MY, MY, THE VALUE WENT DOWN SINCE 25, SO I DON'T KNOW.

IT COULD BE A NUMBER NAME.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT WENT DOWN A LITTLE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'LL DO.

BUT, SO, UH, IN MY CONCLUSION, I WAS JUST TRYING TO POINT OUT SOME VALUE, UH, VALID POINTS THAT, UM, I'M NOT DICTATING WHAT SOMEONE CAN DO OR CANNOT DO WITH THEIR HOME.

BUT MY CONCERN IS THE NOT, UH, THE HEIGHT BEING IN FRONT AND UH, IT'S JUST, UM, WITH NO JUDGMENT.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANK

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YOU MAYOR.

COUNSEL, IT MAY BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM LAURA.

YES.

MAYBE ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

YES.

BECAUSE OUR ORDERS LOWER FRONT.

THE FRONT YARD IS FOUR FOOT, THE BACKYARD IS SIX, BUT FROM CORNER TO CORNER FROM THE HOUSE.

RIGHT.

IT CAN'T GO TO THE FRONT.

RIGHT FROM, FROM THE CORNER SEAT FROM HERE, BACK FROM THAT CORNER BACK, HE CAN BUILD YOU A SIX FOOT FENCE.

BUT THE FRONT YARD REQUIRES FOUR FOUR FOOT FENCE.

YEAH.

LAURA HOLMAN AGAIN, UM, THIS LOT IS A CORNER LOT.

IT IS ORIENTED TOWARDS ASPEN.

THE SAME STREET, UM, THAT MS. THOMAS' HOUSE IS LOCATED ON THE SIDE OF THE LOT IS ALONG DOGWOOD.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING TO DO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXHIBIT WITH THE BLUE LINE, THE BLUE LINE IS WHERE THEY WANT THE FENCE.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE ILLUSTRATION, IT IS NOTED THAT IT'S 24 AND A HALF FEET AWAY FROM WHERE THAT SIDE YARD LINE IS.

SO THEY WANNA PUSH IT OUT TO ENCLOSE THE 24 AND A HALF FEET INTO THEIR BACKYARD.

BUT IT IS ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NEEDING THE VARIANCE.

AND IF I MAY, UH, THE BACK OF THE RIGHT THERE, THE FRONT, YOU CAN'T PUT, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, YOU CAN'T PUT A SIX FOOT FENCE IN FRONT OF YOUR YARD.

RIGHT.

I, I DON'T THINK NOWHERE.

THERE IS A 25 BY 25 VISIBILITY TRIANGLE THAT'S CREATED BY JUST WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED.

AND, AND YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, IF YOU PUT A SIX FOOT FENCE THERE, IT'S GONNA CREATE A TRAFFIC HAZARD.

'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE.

SO THAT'S WHY THE FOOT FOUR FOOT FENCE IN FRONT OF THE YARD IS ESPECIALLY IN A CORNER LOT.

NOW, IF YOU WANNA BUILD FENCE, THEN TWO ROADS COME TOGETHER AND TO PROJECT THAT OR PROTECT THAT PROJECTED FRONT YARD, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT ALL THE CITIZENS.

CORRECT.

THE BACKYARD THAT CAN BE SIX FOOT FRONT YARD CANNOT.

AND, AND IF, IF I MAY, WE HAD A, AN ISSUE LIKE THAT YEAR, A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE, WE GAVE A, A VARIANCE TO A PERSON AND THEY BUILT A 10 FOOT FENCE ANYWAY.

RIGHT.

AND THAT WAS AGAINST OUR ORDINANCES, SO WE HAD TO TEAR IT DOWN.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, UH, SCREENSHOT THAT THERE'S A WOODEN FENCE IN THE BACKGROUND OF IT, THAT'S THE HOUSE TO THE NORTH OF THIS LOT.

MM-HMM .

THEY WANT TO MIRROR HOW THAT FENCE LOOKS ON THEIR FRONTAGE ON DOGWOOD.

OKAY.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS HE'S WANTING TO TAKE HIS FENCE ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE SIDEWALK.

YES.

WELL, BUT 25 FEET BACK FROM ASPEN AND TAKEN OUT ON DOGWOOD AND NOT HAVING THAT SAY, SET BACK ON DOGWOOD.

WELL, LAURA, WOULD IT BE A LITTLE LESS INTRUSIVE INSTEAD OF BRINGING THAT FENCE ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT BUILDING LINE WHERE THE GARAGE ENTRY IS MOVING IT TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY? YES.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S THE BACK CORNER OF THE HOUSE.

THE BACK CORNER OF THE HOUSE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO IT'S NOT SO FAR OUT.

NO, IT, IT DOESN'T, IT CAN'T GO UP TO THE FRONT.

BUT ON THIS SIDE SHE CAN, SHE CAN GO UP TO THE, SHE CAN GO UP TO THAT CORNER OF THAT HOUSE RIGHT THERE.

SHE BUT NOT, NOT ON THIS SIDE.

YEAH, NOT IN, NOT IN THIS SIDE.

NOT ON, NOT ON THE, UH, RIGHT HAND SIDE.

ESSENTIALLY THE YARD ON DOGWOOD IS A FRONT YARD TOO, BASED ON WHERE THEY CAN PUT THE FENCE.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE VARIANCE IS, NEED OF THE PURPOSE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU.

THE FENCE CAN ONLY BE BUILT FROM THE BACK SIDE OUT.

IT CANNOT COME UP, UP TO THE FRONT OF THE BOTTOM.

RIGHT.

CORRECT.

WHERE THE GARAGE IS.

IT CANNOT COME UP THAT FAR.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

COUNSEL MY MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD.

I SECOND.

OKAY.

JUST SO WE'RE, HER DRAWING SHOWS IT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE.

BUT ARE YOU SAYING IT DO IT LIKE YEAH, WELL, TO THE CORNER RIGHT THERE, THE BACK OF THE CORNER.

RIGHT HERE TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.

OF THE HOUSE.

AND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THIS DRAWING IS, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

SO JUST MAKE SURE THAT GETS STATED IN THE MINUTES.

YES.

YES.

PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE, BUT, UH, TO THE BACK CORNER OF THE HOUSE.

OKAY.

WELL, THIS WHOLE THING IT SAYS FOR THE FRONT, THE FRONT, YEAH.

IT CANNOT

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AT THE, THEY HAVEN'T BUILT IT YET.

YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO, BUT THEY CANNOT BRING IT UP, UH, TO WHERE THE GARAGE IS.

OH, YES.

THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT AT THE BACK.

THAT WAY IT IS OPEN TO WHERE ALL TRAFFIC CAN BE SEEN.

OH, YES.

FIRE.

RIGHT.

ANYTHING.

ANYTHING.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING.

ASK.

OKAY.

NOW HAVE A VOTE, A MOTION TO YEAH.

TO APPROVE.

YES, MA'AM.

FOR THE BAN? YES.

AND MOSES SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

YES, YES, YES.

AND YES.

FOUR TO ZERO IT PASSES.

OKAY.

THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED AT 6 56.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

AND WE WILL BEGIN OUR COUNCIL MEETING IN AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.