* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] GOOD, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE WILMER CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER AT SEVEN 7:00 PM ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND A WARM WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. YOUR PRESENCE REFLECTS A STRONG COMMITMENT TO CIVIC ENGAGEMENTS, AND WE TRULY VALUE YOUR INTEREST IN THE WORK AND THE PROGRESS OF OUR CITY. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK PASTOR HARRIS TO DO OUR INVOCATION AFTERWARDS. MS. LINDA NEELAND WILL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALL THAT ARE ABLE TO STAND. PLEASE STAND AT THIS TIME. GOOD EVENING. WE BOW HERE FOR PRAYER. MOST GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE. GOD, WE JUST HONOR YOUR PRESENCE AT THIS VERY MOMENT. GOD. LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU BLESS, UH, THE MAYOR AND ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, GOD AND ALL THE GREAT CITI CITIZENS AND PARISHIONERS OF THIS CITY. GOD. LORD, WE JUST PRAY YOUR CHOICE. BLESSINGS OVER THIS MEETING TODAY. GOD, WE PRAY, FATHER, THAT YOU WOULD JUST BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR GOD WITH WISDOM ON TODAY. GOD, WE PRAY, FATHER, THAT YOUR WILL BE DONE ON TODAY. GOD AND LORD, WE JUST ASK YOUR BLESSINGS OVER THIS CITY, GOD, THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE, FATHER GOD, TO BRING US TOGETHER IN UNITY AND LOVE, GOD AND LORD, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU JUST HAVE YOUR WAY TODAY, GOD. AND WE PRAY, FATHER, THAT LORD, EVERYONE BENEFITS FROM ALL THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE TODAY. GOD AND LORD, I JUST ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE THEM GOOD STEWARDS OVER EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED THEM TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR GOD. LORD, WE LOVE YOU AND WE THANK YOU, AND IT'S IN JESUS' NAME I PRAY, AMEN. AMEN. I PRAY TO FLAG OF OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH HE STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MM-HMM . UH, ALL RIGHT. WE [2. Presentation and discussion regarding the use of Flock Safety cameras.] WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR PRESENTATIONS. UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE USE OF FLOCK SAFETY CAM CAMERAS BY CHIEF KEMP, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU JUST BRIEFLY SOME INFORMATION ON THE FLOCK CAMERAS. SOME OF YOU MAY BE SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THEM. AND, UH, ANOTHER, UH, PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY, CELLEBRITE. UH, SO I, YOU HAVE THE HANDS OUT IN FRONT OF YOU. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A FEW TALKING POINTS THAT'D BE MAYBE A POINT OF REFERENCE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT LATER. AND, UH, I WANNA JUST SAY UP FRONT, SO IT'S NOT A DISTRACTION. THIS IS GONNA SOUND REAL COSTLY, AND IT IS REAL COSTLY, BUT WE HAVE A GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT'S DUE IN FEBRUARY, AND WE'RE GONNA SWING FOR THE FENCES ON THIS GRANT AND TRY TO REALLY GO AFTER THE FUNDING WHERE THERE WILL BE NO, UH, COST TO THE CITY AT ALL. YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE NO COST SHARING IN THIS. SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HEAR THIS, I JUST DIDN'T WANT US TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE COST, BUT THINK ABOUT THE VALUE OF THIS AS WE GO FOR THIS GRANT TO THE CITY. YOU KNOW, AS YOU TRAVEL FROM, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE NOT A LARGE CITY, WE'RE A SMALLER CITY, BUT WE'RE A GROWING CITY. AND SOMETIMES YOU THINK, WELL, WHY DO YOU NEED THIS TECHNOLOGY? BUT WHEN WE'RE TRAVELING AND YOU GO ACROSS THE CITY LIMITS INTO A DIFFERENT CITY, THE TREES LOOK THE SAME, THE GRASS LOOKS THE SAME. AND, UH, IT'S THE SAME WAY WITH, UH, CELEBR BAD ACTORS IN OUR CRIMINAL ELEMENT. YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T RESPECT CITY LIMITS. AND WE, IN OUR CLOSE PROXIMITY TO DALLAS, WE WANT TO BE ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF TECHNOLOGY. AS I'VE SHARED WITH YOU IN THE PAST, LIEUTENANT ORTEGA, UH, AND CID HAS GONE TO THE FBI TRAINING HEADQUARTERS IN QUANTICO, I BELIEVE IT'S THREE TIMES NOW, COMPLETELY AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FBI, NO COST TO THE CITY. THEY'VE FLOWN HIM, HOUSED HIM, AND WE HAVE CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY FOR COMPUTER CRIMES. AND THEY'VE EVEN DONATED THE EQUIPMENT WHERE WE CAN INVESTIGATE COMPUTER CRIMES AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT. IN OUR NEW POLICE FACILITY. WE'RE DONATING, WE'RE DEDICATING, I SHOULD SAY, ONE OF THE OFFICES JUST FOR THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY AND EQUIPMENT WHERE WE CAN INVESTIGATE, UH, COMPUTER CRIMES AND CRIMES THAT INVOLVE CELL PHONES AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO THIS TECHNOLOGY [00:05:01] GOES ALONG WITH THAT VISION OF BEING ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF TECHNOLOGY. UH, SO I, I'LL WANNA SHARE A, A FEW TALKING POINTS. AND LIKE I SAY, YOU HAVE THAT AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, UH, FOR THIS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT FLOCK, A LOT OF TIMES YOU THINK ABOUT BIG BROTHER AND PEOPLE WATCHING, WELL, FLOCK CAMERAS ARE, THEY'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN A LOT OF CITIES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU TRAVEL TO FERRIS, YOU'LL, IF YOU NOTICE THAT SMALL TRAILER UNDERNEATH THE OVERPASS THERE, AS YOU GO IN INTO FERRIS, THAT'S FLOCK CAMERAS. SO IF YOU TRAVEL IN THE FERRIS, YOUR LICENSE PLATE IMAGES BEING CAPTURED, THERE'S IN VIDEO. BUT, UH, ONE OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION IS THAT WHAT TO BE CLEAR IS THERE IS NO FACIAL RECOGNITION IN THIS AT ALL. IT JUST CAPTURES LICENSE PLATE INFORMATION ON VEHICLES. BUT THAT IS JUST A STARTING POINT FOR WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH. WE WANNA MARRY THAT WITH THE CAMERA SYSTEMS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT AS WELL. AND WE CAN PLACE THESE CAMERAS AT STRATEGIC LOCATIONS LIKE INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THEY'RE HEAVILY TRAVELED AND BECOMES KIND OF A, A GATEWAY, IF YOU WILL, THAT IF THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE CRIMES THAT ARE COMMITTED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, AND THOSE LICENSE PLATE INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO US, IF THEY COME INTO OUR CITY, IT'S GONNA NOTIFY OUR OFFICERS IN REAL TIME OF THE INFORMATION ON THAT VEHICLE. AND IT HELPS YOU SPEED UP THE PROCESS TOO. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A CRIME AND YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT VEHICLE DESCRIPTIONS OR SIMILAR VEHICLE DESCRIPTIONS, NOW YOU'RE CHASING DOWN LEADS ON ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT VEHICLES. WHO, WITH FLOCK, IF YOU HAVE THAT LICENSE PLATE INFORMATION AND YOU HAVE STRATEGICALLY PLACED CAMERAS, YOU CAN NARROW IT DOWN BY THAT LICENSE PLATE, IT WILL HAVE CAPTURED THAT VEHICLE TRAVELING ON THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FROM THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHERE A CRIME WAS COMMITTED AND NOT, NOT ONLY JUST BEYOND THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT OF, OF LIKE THE, THE, UH, HIGHWAY SYSTEMS AND SUCH, AND THE ROADWAYS. THESE CAN GO IN OUR PARKS AS WELL. AND THERE ARE A NEW DISPATCH CENTER. UH, DISPATCH CAN SET AND WATCH ACTIVITY. AGAIN, NO FACIAL RECOGNITION. IT WOULD NOT BE TO, TO KEEP AN EYE ON PEOPLE, BUT IF DISPATCH SEES THERE'S ACTIVITY LATE AT NIGHT AFTER DARK IN A PARK, SHE CAN NOTIFY THE OFFICERS JUST TO GIVE THEM A HEADS UP TO DO A DRIVE BY. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARKS ARE AS, AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I'VE READ MANY, MANY TESTIMONIALS. UH, A LOT OF TIMES HOAS HAVE PURCHASED THESE FLOCK CAMERAS THEMSELVES, AND, AND, AND THERE'S FLOCK INSTALLS THEM SOLAR POWERED. SO THERE'S NO, UH, POWER ISSUES WITH IT. AND I HAVE SEEN TESTIMONIALS WHERE HOA PRESIDENTS HAVE SAID THAT IT ABSOLUTELY ELIMINATED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, HUTCHINS, YOU, YOU HAVE IT IN THE HANDOUT, BUT I, I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU, I DIDN'T LOOK IN MY NOTES. I JUST WANNA SHARE WITH YOU, TRY BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE, BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING, WHAT WE'RE DOING BY GOING IN WITH FLOCK, AND I'LL, I'LL JUST MENTION CELEBRATE TO YOU IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT THE MAIN, THE MAIN THING IS IT JUST CREATES A SAFETY SHIELD. TALKING POINTS. I HEAR, UH, FAMILY SAFETY AND PARKS, CAMERAS REPLACING CITY PARKS IN ORDER TO DETER VANDALISM AND ASSURE RECREATIONAL SPACES REMAIN SAFE. INTERSECTIONS OF THOROUGH AFFAIRS, AS I MENTIONED, HIGH VISIBILITY INTERSECTIONS BASICALLY MAKES A VIRTUAL GATE OF, UH, IDENTIFYING VEHICLES AND SUSPECTS ENTERING INTO OUR CITY OR EXITING, UH, INDUSTRIAL PROTECTION. I MENTIONED TO YOU SOMETIME BACK THAT WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, INSIDE JOBS THAT WERE VERY, VERY, UH, COSTLY AND THEFTS. THIS WILL ALLOW US ALSO TO PROTECT OUR BUSINESSES IN IN TOWN WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING OUR TAX BASE AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT, AND MAKE IT JUST A LOT EASIER TO SOLVE CRIMES. AND AGAIN, THE BIGGEST THING IS DETERRING IT BEFORE IT TAKES PLACE. AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANY, UH, OPPORTUNISTIC CRIMINALS OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, THINK THAT WE'RE VULNERABLE. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE NO FACIAL RECOGNITION. IT IDENTIFIES VEHICLES BY MAKE COLOR AND PLATE. IT DOES NOT TRACK INDIVIDUALS. THE DATA THAT IS NOT USING A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AUTOMATICALLY DELETES AFTER 30 DAYS. AND PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO VISIT A PORTAL FOR TRANSPARENCY AND BE ABLE TO SEE OUR POLICIES AND BE ABLE TO SEE IN REAL TIME HOW THE SYSTEM IS HELPING US IN OUR COMMUNITY SOLVE CRIME. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT YOURSELF. SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY. AND THE GOAL IS THIS, IT'S, IT IS, UH, OUR GOAL IS SIMPLE. EVERYTHING WE DO IS DRIVEN BY OUR SIMPLE MODEL TO SERVE WITH HONOR, PROTECT THE VIGILANCE. EVERYTHING IS FILTERED THROUGH THAT. SO OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE WARM THE SAFEST PLACE IN NORTH TEXAS TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY. AND BY JOINING OUR NEIGHBORS IN THIS REGIONAL NETWORK, WE'RE SENDING A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT CRIME IS NOT WELCOME. AND OUR CITY AND THE SURROUNDING CITIES THAT HAVE THIS TECHNOLOGY NOW THAT WE'LL BE JOINING IS, UH, DALLAS, LANCASTER, HUTCHINS, AND SEAVILLE. [00:10:01] AND, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES, BUT THAT'S JUST OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, UH, THAT HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY. AND CELLEBRITE, I'LL JUST TOUCH BASE ON THAT. THAT'S JUST ANOTHER LEVEL OF, UH, ABILITY TO LOOK IN PHONES FOR CRIMINAL PROSECUTION TO SECURE CASES A LOT MORE QUICKLY. WE ARE ALREADY ON THAT TRACK WITH WHAT I MENTIONED ABOUT THE, UH, SOFTWARE AND THE EQUIPMENT WE'VE GOT THROUGH THE FBI, BUT THIS WILL SHORE THAT UP AS WELL. AND THIS, AGAIN, IS, UH, A GRANT THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER. I'LL BE, I'M NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT AT ALL ON THIS TECHNOLOGY. I'VE JUST DONE THE RESEARCH AND THE OFFICERS, WE, IF YOU REMEMBER, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE CASE EXAMPLE. YOU REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD A HOMICIDE AT HER MOBILE HOME PARK. AND, UH, A MOTHER WAS MURDERED AND HER SON WAS ABDUCTED AND, AND, AND TAKEN BY THE DAD. IT WAS SWAT CAMERAS THAT HELPED US IDENTIFY THAT HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO MEXICO. WE, UH, CONTACTED THE DALLAS FUSION CENTER. WE WERE ABLE TO SEE HIS TRUCK IN PINT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WHERE HE GOT ON A BUS TO GO TO MEXICO. AND THAT WASN'T WITH OURS, THAT WAS WITH OTHERS. SO WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO IT A LOT QUICKER BY HAVING OUR OWN, UH, SHIELD AND CAMERA SYSTEM. CHIEF, JUST ONE QUESTION. I KNOW THIS IS A GRANT, BUT IS THE GRANT FOR TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, OR WHAT, WHAT'S THE DURATION? AND ALSO, ARE WE OBLIGATED TO CONTINUE IT AFTER THE GRANT? THIS WILL BE PURCHASED THIS, THIS WILL BE PURCHASED IN THE CAMERAS, UH, FLOCK FOR THEM TO COME INTO COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE AT LEAST 10 CAMERAS. 10 STATIONS AND 10 LOCATIONS. AND ONCE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THOUGH, YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE THEM IN THE UP UPFRONT COST. IF I'M, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, I CAN GET YOU SOME MORE NUMBERS ON THIS. IT'S $50,000, AND THEN AFTER IT, I THINK IT'S LIKE REDUCED TO LIKE $25,000 FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE ANNUAL OPERATING COST. AND YOU ASKED A VERY GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO IT AS FAR AS IT CONTINUING, BUT I WAS ASSURED THAT THERE IS NO COST TO THE CITY, NO MATCHING FUNDS OR ANYTHING. YOUR QUESTION AS FAR AS HOW IT CONTINUES, I'LL GET YOU AN ANSWER TO THAT. THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THE FLOCK CAMERAS. WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GET IT FUNDED. WELL, THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY JUST CAME TO US, AND WE HAVE A DEADLINE, AND I WILL GET YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. I JUST WANTED YOU GUYS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND, AND HAVE THE FIRST, THE FIRST KNOWLEDGE OF IT BEFORE WE PROCEED ANY FURTHER. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE GRANT PAPERWORK. IT HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED, BUT BECAUSE IT'S INVOLVED AND, UH, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED PREPARING THE GRANT PAPERWORK. OKAY. BUT I WILL GET THE ANSWER TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IT. OKAY. COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. UM, ON THESE CAMERAS, ALL IT'S TAKEN IS LICENSE PLATE. UH, IT, IT'S NOT LIKE SHOPPING CENTERS, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GOING IN AND OUT OF THE STORES AND WHAT, VERY GOOD QUESTION. THE LPR IS ACTUALLY ONLY DOING LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS, BUT WE WANT TO INTEGRATE IT. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CAMERA SYSTEMS THAT WILL HAVE VIDEO OF THE PART OF WHERE, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, IT WILL HAVE VIDEO. IT WILL NOT BE FACES, BUT IT WILL JUST BE VEHICLES THAT IT CAPTURES. SO IF ACCIDENTS IN INTERSECTIONS, WE CAN MONITOR TRAFFIC. SO YES, IT WILL HAVE VIDEO LIKE YOU WOULD SEE SOMETIMES ON NEWS OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WHERE PARKING LOT IS CAPTURED. AND I BELIEVE, LIKE YOU CAN, THE, THE CAMERA STATIONS, YOU COULD HAVE 'EM TO YOU NOT WHERE THE, UH, WE CAN EVEN INTEGRATE IT LIKE BUSINESSES THAT THEY WANT TO GO IN ON THIS TOO, WHERE IT HAS THE BLUE LIGHT SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS A CAMERA, IT'S, IT IS RECORDING. AND THOSE ARE JUST HUGE DETERRENTS IN ADDITION TO IF YOU DO HAVE A CRIME COMMITTED, CAPTURING THAT, YES, WE ARE, THE, THE LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION CAPTURES LICENSE PLACE, BUT WE WANT TO INTEGRATE THIS WITH THE CAMERA SYSTEMS. AND TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT ONE OF THE CAMERAS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S CAMERAS ON THAT TRAILER UP THERE OR NOT. I, I THINK THAT'S JUST LOT PLATE RECOGNITION. Y'ALL CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I THINK IT'S, SIR. YEAH, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S JUST LOT PLATE RECOGNITION. BUT WE WANT TO DO, UH, THEY'LL, AND AGAIN, FLACO INSTALL THE CAMERAS ON POLES. THEY'RE VERY UNOBTRUSIVE. THEY'RE VERY, VERY SMALL CAMERAS. AND, UH, I JUST THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR, LIKE I SAID, WE STRATEGICALLY LOCATE 'EM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE RECOVERING PARKS, INTERSECTIONS, THE, UH, MAIN THOROUGHFARE COMING INTO AND OUT OF OUR CITY. AND THEN AGAIN, AS OUR NEIGHBORHOODS COME IN, YOU KNOW, IF WE, UH, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD TO IT. WE THINK CAMERAS WORK THROUGH WIFI OR HOW DID THEY WORK? I, I DON'T KNOW. ALL I I TOLD YOU, I'M NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON, ON HOW IT WORKS, BUT YES, UM, IT WORKS OVER THE NETWORK SOME WAY SOMEHOW. UH, I, I'M NOT SURE [00:15:01] ONE OF MY OFFICERS MAYBE CAN ANSWER THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW HOW IT COMMUNICATES OR TALKS OR WHATEVER. UH, I THINK THE, UH, SOLAR, YEAH. OH YEAH. SATELLITE. SO WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE COME IN WHO IS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THAT. I DON'T, I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW IT'S GONNA TALK AT ALL THOSE. I JUST KNOW THAT THEY WILL INSTALL IT, THEIR SOLAR PANELS AND THE DALLAS FUSION CENTER RECEIVES THE INFORMATION AND WE CONTACT THEM THROUGH THEIR PORTAL AND, AND GATHER INFORMATION. BUT IT'S ALMOST IN REAL TIME. I MEAN, IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S, UH, A CRIME IN LANCASTER, YOU KNOW, AND THE SUSPECTS COMING THROUGH OUR CITY OR WHATEVER, OUR OFFICERS GET THAT INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE COMING INTO OUR CITY JUST ALMOST IN REAL TIME, IT WILL NOTIFY. AND NOT ONLY JUST STOLEN VEHICLES, I MEAN, IT, THERE'S A STOLEN VICTIM IN OUR CITY. WHAT CATCHES IT, IT SHOWS UP AS A STOLEN VEHICLE THAT'S ENTERED NOT ONLY THAT, UH, RECOVERING, UH, THE, THE SILVER ALERTS, THE AMBER ALERTS, ALL THIS INFORMATION GOES IN. IF THERE'S AN AMBER ALERT OR A SILVER ALERT, IT WILL ALSO NOTIFY YOU IF THEY ARE IN YOUR CITY, YOU'RE IN YOUR COMMUNITY OR DRIVING THROUGH, AT THE VERY LEAST, IF THEY'RE ON INTERSTATE 45 AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING, EACH PLACE THAT HAS SWAT CAMERAS, EACH CITY GETS TAKEN A PACK AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, WHAT DIRECTION THEY'RE TRAVELING AND GETTING AN IDEA, POSSIBLY OF DESTINATIONS AND THINGS. IT'S A GREAT TOOL QUESTION. SO HOW MANY UNITS WOULD THIS GRANT COVER TO PURCHASE? AND, 'CAUSE YOU'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE MIGHT PLACE THEM. SO HOW MANY WOULD THIS ALLOW US? THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL YOU AT THIS POINT UNTIL WE GET DEEPER INTO THE GRANT, IS I KNOW IT'LL BE AT LEAST 10 CAMERAS, BECAUSE FLOCK WILL NOT DO LESS THAN 10 CAMERAS. SO IT'LL BE AT LEAST 10 STATIONS. AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR, WE'RE GONNA, AGAIN, I USE THE TERM WE'RE GONNA SWING FOR THE FENCES ON THIS GRANT AND SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN GET GO AFTER. BECAUSE AGAIN, IF THERE'S NO COST SHARING TO THE CITY, AND I'LL GET AN ANSWER TO, UH, STEVE'S QUESTION ON IT AS FAR AS LIKE THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT, IF THERE'S A DURATION ON THAT, AND WE SHOULD ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION SOONER THAN LATER. IS THERE ANY KIND OF FEE FOR, UM, I DON'T KNOW. HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD I SAY IT? CONNECTING IN WITH THE WHOLE AREA. SO LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN LANGSTER, AND IT COMES THIS WAY, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF COMMUNICATION. THAT'S WHAT FLOCK DOES. THEY COMMUNICATE. IT'S THE INTERCONNECTIVITY THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THAT. LIKE I SAID, AS IT GOES THROUGH THE DALLAS FUSION CENTER, HOW FLOCK HAS THAT SET UP IS PART OF ONE BIG NETWORK. AND THERE'S NO, YOUR COST IS THE PURCHASE OF IT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. HOPEFULLY THE GRANT WILL COVER. SO THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL FEE. STEVE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT THAT I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO. I'D LIKE TO SAY AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE IS A MAINTENANCE FEE, IF THE CITY WERE PURCHASING THIS, AND LET'S JUST SAY TO PURCHASE IT, IT'S A, IT'S AROUND $50,000 AFTER YOUR INITIAL PURCHASE, THE YEAR AFTER THAT. I THINK IT'S LIKE A 25, ABOUT A 50% MAINTENANCE FEE THAT WOULD BE GOING FORWARD. SO IT'S A VERY FAIR, UH, QUESTION THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO AS FAR AS HOW THE GRANT WOULD COVER THAT. CHIEF, MAY I ASK, UM, WE, YOU SAY YOU HAVE TO KNOW BY FEBRUARY, RIGHT? WE ARE, WE'RE PURSUING THE GRANT. I, UNLESS I'M TOLD NOT TO PURSUE THE GRANT, WE'RE PURSUING THE GRANT AND WE'LL, WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING SUBMITTED BY THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY. OKAY, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION. SO THERE'S, WELL, TWO THINGS REAL FAST. ONE, THANK YOU FOR BEING BRIEFED. STEVE WAS LIKE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT, BUT SECOND. UNDERSTOOD. SO THE DEADLINE FOR THE GRANT IS FEBRUARY. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHY WE WENT AHEAD AND STARTED PROCEEDING WITH THE PRELIMINARY INFORMATION. WE'RE GATHERED THIS NECESSARY FOR THE GRANT. AND SO WE'LL NEED THIS ON THE AGENDA AGAIN BEFORE FEBRUARY THEN, RIGHT? IF WE WANT TO GO FORWARD, NOT NECESSARILY IF, IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH CITY NEEDS THING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE IF YOU START HEARING ABOUT WE'RE PURSUING THIS, THAT YOU HAD THE INFORMATION AND A CHANCE, YOU KNOW, TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAD ANY CONCERNS ABOUT IT. BUT IS OUR INTENTION, LIKE STEVE SAID, TO, TO, TO GO WITH THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITIES? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, YES. IS THERE AN GRANT OPPORTUNITY GOING FORWARD FOR THAT MAINTENANCE? THAT'S WHAT I, I WILL FIND THAT OUT AND I'LL BE GLAD TO COME BACK. I'M, MATTER OF FACT, I WILL BE, I HAVE SOMETHING ON AGENDA. THE NEXT ONE. IF YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. THIS IS JUST, WE THREW THIS ON TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE LITERALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS, THIS WEEK. I'LL GET YOU THE MORE INFORMATION AND BRIEF YOU AGAIN BEFORE WE SUBMIT THE FINAL APPEAL FOR THE GRANT. I WILL GET ANSWERS TO, TO YOUR QUESTIONS TONIGHT BEFORE WE MAKE THAT FINAL SUBMITTAL ON GRANT. THANK YOU, SIR. [00:20:02] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES SIR. THANK YOU. UM, ITEM [1. Receive the Public Works/Parks Quarterly Report.] NUMBER TWO, RECEIVE THE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS QUARTERLY REPORT. WE ARE GOING TO TABLE THAT ITEM. AND NOW ON [COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENTS] COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENTS. UM, THE MAY 2ND, 2026 GENERAL ELECTION. I AM NOW ACCEPTING CANDIDATE PACKETS. PACKETS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE WATER DEPARTMENT. UM, THE FILING DATE TO BE ON THE BALLOT IS JANUARY 14TH THROUGH FEBRUARY 13TH BY 5:00 PM WITH ME. THE CITY OF WILMER WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, JANUARY 19TH, AN OBSERVANCE OF MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. DAY. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES. UM, AND WE WILL [CITIZENS' COMMENTS:] NOW MOVE ON TO CITIZEN COMMENTS. I HAVE ONE COMMENT, MAYOR, AND THAT IS FROM MS. HESTER. MS. HESTER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. I'M ANN HESTER, TWO 19TH SOUTH DALLAS AVENUE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT ON DECEMBER THE 19TH, ARBERY FELL AND BUSTED HIS HEAD OPEN. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE REALLY EVER HAD TO USE THE AMBULANCE WITH SOMEONE THAT WAS CRITICAL. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD GROUP ON THAT AMBULANCE BECAUSE THEY GOT HIM TO BAYLOR INTO THE EMERGENCY PART. GOT HIM INTO SURGERY WITHIN TWO HOURS. THAT SAVED HIS LIFE BECAUSE HE HAD A BRAIN BLEED. AND I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR CAUSE, YOUR VISITS AND YOUR CONCERN FOR HIM. AND PLEASE KEEP HIM IN YOUR PRAYERS BECAUSE WE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. AND OUR CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL [CONSENT AGENDA] NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM THREE, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE DECEMBER 18TH, 2025, BOA REGULAR MEETING. DECEMBER 18TH, 2025, CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING. AND JANUARY 8TH, 2025. CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING COUNCIL, DO YOU APPROVE THESE MINUTES? I NEED A MOTION, PLEASE. ONE OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN MAKE A MOTION. I WOULD JUST CHECK IN TO SEE WHAT THE BOARDS MET OR NOT. BUT, UM, THROUGH 18TH BOARD ADJUST MEETING. DECEMBER, THE, MAY I GET A SECOND? I SECOND. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, I WAS NOT PRESENT AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS TO VOTE ON THAT BY YES MA'AM. UH, PAPERS JUST IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. LE EXCUSE ME. YOU ARE JUST IN AGREEMENT THAT YOU WEREN'T HERE. IF THE MINUTES STATE THAT YOU WEREN'T PRESENT, MAY I HAVE A VOTE? YES, YES, YES, YES. IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACTION ITEMS. UM, NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 31ST, 2025 MONTHLY FOUND FINANCIALS. OUR CONSULTING FINANCE DIRECTOR, MS. ALBERT, WILL PRESENT THE ITEM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TO GIVE YOU THE PRESENTATION FOR THE OCTOBER, 2025 FINANCIALS. THIS MARKS THE, UH, FIRST MONTH OF THE FISCAL YEAR FOR 2026. AND IT'S VERY, UM, BRIEF. SO, 'CAUSE IT'S THE FIRST MONTH, SO WE'LL START WITH THE GENERAL FUND. AND THE GENERAL FUND, UH, SHOWED A TOTAL REVENUE IN OCTOBER OF $861,038. AND [00:25:01] THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES WERE ABOUT $1.2 MILLION FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. AND THAT GAVE US, UH, REVENUES THAT WERE UNDER THE EXPENDITURES FOR THAT MONTH. AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, THIS WILL ALL LEVEL OFF AS THE PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS START COMING IN. SO AT AROUND DECEMBER TO JANUARY, YOU'LL START TO SEE HOW THAT IS NO LONGER, YOU KNOW, UH, LOOKING LIKE A LOSS, IF YOU WILL. SO THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND, VERY, UH, VERY BRIEF. LIKE I SAID, UM, THE WATER AND SEWER FUND IS ON THE NEXT PAGE. AND THAT ONE HAD A TOTAL INCOME OF $373,000 WITH TOTAL EXPENSES OF $204,000 WITH A NET INCOME OF ABOUT $168,600 FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE NET INCOME WAS 160,987, AND THAT INCLUDES SOME SALES TAX REVENUES OF ABOUT 258,000. UM, THE TEXDOT GREEN BELT, UH, GREEN RIBBON, I'M SORRY, GREEN RIBBON GRANT OF $66,000 THAT CAME IN. AND THE EXPENDITURES WERE 165,000 2 97. AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WITH A TOTAL INCOME OF 160,000 FOR OCTOBER FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE TOTAL INCOME WAS 222,775. SAME THING WITH THE SALES TAX REVENUES. UM, A LITTLE BIT OF INTEREST INCOME FOR THE OCTOBER MONTH, AND THEN THE EXPENDITURES WERE JUST UNDER $40,000. AND AGAIN, THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF OUR FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 26, AND THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, THANK YOU, MS. PATRICIA. YOU ARE WELCOME, PATRICIA. THANK YOU FOR DOING A GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ORDINANCE NUMBER OH 2 2 6 0 8 A REGARDING AN AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. MAP FOR THE PROPERTY AT 300 MARS ROAD, CASE NUMBER FLUM DASH 25 DASH ZERO TWO. AND WE HAVE JORDAN CRUZ HERE, AND HE WILL EXPLAIN THE NEXT STEPS POINT OF ORDER. DO NOT HAVE TO APPROVE THE FUND. IT SAYS FOUR DISCUSSING IS THERE APPROVAL, BUT DO WE NOT? I DON'T THINK Y'ALL HAVE EVER APPROVED ON THOSE. WE CAN, BUT, OH, WELL, IT'S JUST IT. CONSIDER THE QUESTION. OH, THANK YOU, . YEAH, BECAUSE NORMALLY WE HAVE BEEN GETTING THEM BY THE QUARTER MM-HMM . AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME PRESENTATION BY MONTHLY. MONTHLY, WHICH FINALLY, THANK YOU, PATRICIA, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. WE'RE GONNA WAIT TILL COME LATER ON. I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO SAY QUESTION. WHERE? OCTOBER, WHEN AFTER. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED ITEMS FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN, WHICH ALL PERTAIN TO THE SAME SUBJECT PROPERTY. BEING THAT THESE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE'RE GONNA HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOT HOLD THE VOTES TONIGHT. SO WE'LL BE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND WE CAN HOLD THE HEARINGS. SO, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 300 MARS, UH, CONSISTS OF A SINGLE LOT THAT COVERS APPROXIMATELY 31 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE FLUP TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A TRAILER LEASING SALES BUSINESS. UM, UH, THE SURROUNDING AREAS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN ARE DESIGNATED AS A MIX OF THINGS, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND SINGLE FAMILY. BUT ALONG WITH THE, THIS ITEM, THERE ARE TWO ACCOMPANYING ITEMS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. THE SECOND ITEM TONIGHT WILL BE THE REZONING OF THAT PROPERTY FROM A NO ZONING TO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND THE THIRD WILL BE A CONDITIONAL, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE TRAILER STORAGE YARD. UM, SO THESE THREE ITEMS, ONE WILL DEPEND ON THE OTHER. SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGE WILL ALLOW FOR THE, UM, FOR THE REZONING, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH YOU GUYS WILL VOTE ON IN A FUTURE MEETING WHENEVER WE BRING IT BACK, THE APPLICANT IS [00:30:01] HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, AS WELL. BUT, AND JORDAN, IF, IF THE ITEM, THE FIRST ITEM DOESN'T PASS, THE NEXT ITEMS CANNOT HAPPEN, YEAH, THEN THAT'S DONE. THAT'S RIGHT. SO IT'LL BE A CASCADING EFFECT, RIGHT? SO IF ONE OF THE FIRST TWO DON'T PASS, THE REST ARE DONE, AND THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO BRING TO TABLE THE ITEMS UNTIL FEBRUARY 19TH. BUT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY NOTIFIED THE PUBLIC OF A PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA DO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR EACH ITEM, BUT ASK THE COUNCIL NOT TO TAKE, WE'LL NOT OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SEVEN 30. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS. THIS IS THE OWNER APPLICANT. HE'S, THAT'S OKAY. I STILL NEED HIS NAME AND ADDRESS. I'LL STILL DO THAT. YES, MA'AM. MY NAME IS MICHAEL CLARK. I'M WITH WINKELMAN AND ASSOCIATES, 67 50 HILLCREST PLAZA, SUITE TWO 15, DALLAS, 7 5 2 3 0. UH, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I I, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TILL YOUR NEXT MEETING. UH, BUT IT DID, WE DID WANNA BE RESPECTFUL AND, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, THAT IT WAS ON, ON THE, A COUNCIL AGENDA THIS EVENING. AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD PREFER TO DEFER IT TILL TILL THEN IF YOU, IF YOU ARE, WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO DO SO, SIR. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7 31. MOVE FORWARD TO NUMBER EIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS THE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE FINAL PLAT FOR DS 1 26. UM, WE'VE REVIEWED THIS PLAT, IT'S GONE BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING. THIS PLAT SATISFIES ALL SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS AND PLANNING AND ZONING, HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UM, BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE GIVEN US. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. COUNSEL, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE A, A REPRESENTATIVE THAT CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL. WHICH ITEM ARE YOU ON, JORDAN? THIS IS ITEM EIGHT. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO GO BACK ITEM SIX. SO ITEM SIX AND SEVEN. WE DID FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN. YEAH, WE DID ALL THREE ALL AT THE SAME TIME. WE CAN'T, WE GOTTA DO THE PUBLIC HEARING SEPARATELY. WE CAN'T DO THOSE ALL. IT WOULDN'T BE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE O AND OH. OKAY. ZONING. AND, UH, OKAY. AND THE CONDITION USE PERMIT, WE GOTTA DO, NOW WE GOTTA GO BACK AND DO A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE, UH, SIX ZONING CHANGE AND THEN A SEPARATE ONE FOR SEVEN TO SEE. THAT CAN GO REAL QUICK. ITEM SIX, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ORDINANCE NUMBER OH 2 0 2 6 DASH 0 1 8 B REGARDING A ZONING CHANGE FOR THE PROPERTY AT 300 MARS ROAD, CASE NUMBER ZC DASH 25 DASH ZERO FOUR. WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7 33. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK? NO, WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7 33 30. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 0 0 2 0 2 6 DASH OH ONE EIGHT C FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE, UM, INCIDENTAL USE OF A TRAILER STORAGE YARD AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 300 MARS ROAD CASE FILE CP DASH 25 DASH ZERO FIVE. WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7 34. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK? WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SEVEN 30. FOUR 30. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR 1 26 EDITION LOCATED IN THE CITY OF WILMER, ETJ CONSISTING OF ONE LOT ON APPROXIMATELY 1 26 ACRES OF A UNPUTED TRACK. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED IN THE JOHN LITTLE SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 6 7 6 8 IN THE MAJOR W SPENCER SUR SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 1 2 8 7. SO AS I STATED EARLIER, WE'VE REVIEWED THIS, UH, THEY'VE COME BACK AND ANSWERED ALL THE COMMENTS WE HAVE AND IT MEETS ALL THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS. AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS [00:35:01] THAT YOU MAY HAVE. SO I JUST REAL FAST BECAUSE I WAS ASKED TO, UH, MY, BECAUSE THESE ARE PLATS, PLATS ARE THE ONE PART OF LAND. WELL, WE PROBABLY HATE MOST OF LAND. WE HATE THEM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE PLATS REALLY JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. IS IT COMPLIANT WITH OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND IS IT ADMINISTRATIVELY COMPLETE STAGES IN THE RIGHT SPOT, RIGHT FONT, RIGHT NUMBER COPIES, ET CETERA. REMEMBER THE LAW TWO 12, I THINK IT'S OH OH NINE, SAYS THAT IF BOTH THOSE QUESTIONS ARE YES, WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE, WE HAVE TO, TO APPROVE THE PLAT, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE TO APPROVE IT. SO I BELIEVE HE SAID THAT IT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. I'M ASSUMING IS IT ADMINISTRATIVELY COMPLETE? SO THERE YOU GO. I MEAN, I I'M NOT SAYING DON'T LISTEN, I'M NOT SAYING DON'T ASK QUESTIONS, BUT ULTIMATELY PER THE LAW BECAUSE OF PLATS SPECIFICALLY, ANYTHING ELSE, JUST PLATS BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE TO COMPLETE, HAVE TO PROVE IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO, AS A QUICK REMINDER, COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHICH ONE ARE WE ON NOW? NUMBER EIGHT. NUMBER EIGHT. OKAY. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, MAY I GET A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. MS. PHYLLIS MADE THE MOTION AND MS. LINDA SECONDED. MAY I GET A VOTE? YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. IT IS FIVE TO ZERO. IT PASSES. ITEM NUMBER NINE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A FINAL PLAT FOR DAS ONE 14 EDITION LOCATED IN THE CITY OF WILER, ETJ CONSISTING OF ONE LOT ON AN APPROXIMATELY 4,000 NINE HUNDRED SEVENTY EIGHT TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY SQUARE FOOT UN PLATTERED TRACK. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED IN THE JOHN LITTLE SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 7 6 8, AND THE MAJOR W SPENCER SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 1 2 8 7, JORDAN, LIKE THE PREVIOUS. UM, THIS PLAT WENT BEFORE P AND Z WAS VOTED ON AND APPROVED FOR, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. THIS PROJECT ALSO MEETS ALL SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, UM, WHO CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PLAT. YOU MAY HAVE COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, MAY I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND? YES, MA'AM. THIS IS UNLA, RIGHT? THIS, THIS ANOTHER. WE'RE JUST TALKING, MAY I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. MS. LAU SECONDS. MAY I GET A VOTE? YES, YES, YES, YES, YES. FIVE TO ZERO IT PASSED. NUMBER 10, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER REPEALING ORDINANCES. OH 2 0 2 2 DASH TWO ONE B THROUGH OH 2 2 2 2 1 0 2 22 2 1 THROUGH OH 2 2 2 Z OH 2 3 9 E THROUGH OH 2 99, WHICH BROUGHT CERTAIN TRACKS OF LAND INTO THE CITY THAT HAD RECEIVED LONGSTANDING TREATMENT FROM THE CITY PURSUANT TO SECTION 4 1 4 1 0.003 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. MISS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TURNER, [00:40:14] 2008, A LAWSUIT WAS FILED AGAINST WILMER BY MR. ESTES AND HIS NEIGHBORS NEARBY. THEY HAD BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE, INTO WILMER, AND NOW WERE BEING DIS ANNEXED. AND IN THE LAWSUIT IT SAYS THE LAWSUIT SEEKS A DEC DEC, I CAN'T SAY THE WORD DECLARATORY. THANK YOU. JUDGMENT. PROTECTING PLAINTIFF'S RIGHTS FROM DEFENDANTS PASSING A MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE OR THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO. DOES NOT EXIST AS DEFENDANTS HAVE NOT MET ALL STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF, THE PROPERTIES WERE DIS ANNEXED AND THE TAX MONEY WAS RETURNED IN 2022 AND 2023, WILMER MADE A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT OF THE SAME PROPERTIES FROM THE LAST LAWSUIT. ONCE AGAIN, AN ATTORNEY PROVED THE CITY TRIED TO PASS A MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE WHERE THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO DOES NOT EXIST AS WILMER HAS NOT MET ALL STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. THREE YEARS HAVE PASSED, NO WATER OR SEWER LINES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THESE PROPERTIES. SO THESE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE REQUESTED THEIR ORDINANCE REPEALED. TO AVOID FURTHER EMBARRASSING LAWSUITS, WILMER SHOULD GRANT THESE PROPERTY OWNERS THEIR REQUEST. WILMER HAS A HISTORY OF UNLAWFULLY CREATING A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, RESULTING IN MANY LAWSUITS AND LOST LOTS OF TAXPAYERS MONEY. SO I UNDERSTAND THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE ADDRESSES THAT GO WITH THESE NUMBERS, BUT I HAVE THEM AND I'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU. AND I'D LIKE TO VOTE TO TAKE THESE PEOPLE BACK OUT OF THE CITY TONIGHT. MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE, UM, TO BRING TWO THINGS TO, TO QUESTION. THE FIRST ONE IS, WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED LAST MONTH, WE PUT THIS OFF TO THE SIDE TO ALLOW OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND CITY STAFF TO DO RESEARCH TO SEE WHERE THESE PREVIOUS PROPERTIES ACTUALLY WERE AND THE VALUE, UH, THAT IT WOULD HAVE IF THEIR TAXES WERE TO BE REMOVED. UM, MY SECOND QUESTION, WELL, THREE QUESTIONS. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, YOU STATED THAT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED OUT OF THE CITY. UH, I JUST ASKED OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING RECEIVED IN WRITING FROM ANY PROPERTY OWNER ASKING TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CITY. AND MY THIRD COMMENT IS BEFORE THIS IS DISCUSSED ANY FURTHER, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I WAS INVOLVED IN A SITUATION AND, UM, SIMILAR TO THIS, WHERE I HAD TO LEAVE THE DAAS AND I WAS REQUESTED TO NOT ONLY LEAVE THE DAAS, BUT TO WALK OUTSIDE AND NOT BE IN THE ROOM WHEN MY AREA THAT I WAS FIGHTING THE CITY ABOUT WAS BEING DISCUSSED. THERE ARE TWO MEMBERS ON THIS COUNCIL WHO MAY HAVE SOME BIAS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY ORDINANCE. AND SO I AM REQUESTING AT THIS TIME THAT THEY BE ASKED TO, I'M NOT GONNA SAY GO OUTSIDE BECAUSE OF THE COLD WEATHER, BUT YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY LEAVE THE DIOCESE. SO THIS CAN BE DISCUSSED BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE POTENTIAL BIAS. THANK YOU. NO, THAT AIN'T YOU, MICHAEL. SO BIAS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MIGHT NOT EXIST, BUT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, BIAS IS NOT CONSIDERED AS A REASON TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM DISCUSSION OR FROM UH, VOTING. UH, OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL MEMBER JACOBS FEELS DIFFERENTLY. AND THAT'S, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. WHY WAS I ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THIS FACILITY A YEAR AGO WHEN I WAS INVOLVED IN A SIMILAR SITUATION AGAINST THE CITY? WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SITUATION, MY PROPERTY LINE WHEN I WAS FIGHTING THE CITY, AND ACTUALLY YI DID WIN FINALLY. AND IT'S GOING TO NOW, I'VE HAD TO PAY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. IT'S BEING RE PLATTED THAT WILL BE BECOME, COME TO THE COUNCIL ONCE I AM OFF THIS BOARD. [00:45:01] BUT WHEN I WAS ASKED TO LEAVE THE BUILDING IN ORDER TO GET THAT DONE FOR, FOR THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS IT, SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN, I'M UNDERSTANDING IF THEY HAD, WERE ARE INVOLVED IN THIS AND THERE ARE TWO MEMBERS UP HERE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THIS IF THEY ARE INVOLVED. YOUR SITUATION. I, I I CAN'T ANSWER THE ASKING YOU TO LEAVE THE BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. BUT AS FAR AS YOUR, YOU WERE HERE, SIR, I NEVER SAID LEAVE THE BUILDING. NEVER ONCE DID I SAY THAT. NOT AT ALL. REGARDLESS, YOUR IF ISSUE WAS OVER A LAWSUIT THAT YOU WERE HAVING AND YOU WERE ASKING THE CITY OR THE ISSUE WAS A SURVEY OF YOUR PROPERTY AND WHO SHOULD PAY FOR IT? THE CITY SHOULD DO. NO, I NEVER ASKED. YOU PAY FOR THAT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S NOT AT ALL THE SAME AS BIAS. AND YOU CAN DISAGREE AND THAT'S FINE. YOU'RE DISAGREEING. I I'M UP HERE JUST TO GIVE YOU MY OPINION. AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THE LAW ABOUT YOU GOTTA REUSE YOURSELF BECAUSE OF BIAS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOT ONE OF THESE ORDINANCES HAVE ANY IMPACT OF ANY OF THE SIX MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SO BIAS IS NOT A LEGAL REASON TO RECRUIT YOURS, INVOLVE MONEY OUT YOUR POCKET. BETTER LAW DEGREE. IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THIS, THEY WERE, ARE THEY, THEY WERE LISTED. THEY OWN PROPERTY THAT WAS BROUGHT INTO THE CITY. THEY MAY WANT, THEY MAY FEEL LIKE THEY, THEY HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH SHOW ME WHERE THAT'S ILLEGAL REASON FOR THEM TO REUSE THEMSELVES. THEY'RE INVOLVED. THEY WANT TO GET THAT MONEY BACK THAT THEY PAID, PAID. IN FACT, THE LAW DISAGREES WITH YOU. THE LAW SAYS YOU CAN BE INVOLVED. THAT'S NOT THE ARBITER. THAT IS NOT THE DECISION. THE DECISION IS ARE YOU GETTING SOMETHING FINANCIAL OUT OF IT? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GETTING SOMETHING FINANCIAL, THEY KNOW I DON'T. SO BIAS IS NOT A VALID LEGAL REASON TO MAKE SOMEONE REUSE THEMSELVES. I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I YOUR SITUATION. OKAY, IF I MAY CONTINUE. I THINK I HAD THE FLOOR WAS TALKING, SIR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT SURE. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YES MA'AM. WHEN THIS WAS HAPPENING, THERE WAS A LOT OF ANGER. IN FACT, I YOU WILL VOTE ON RECORD THAT I VOTED AGAINST THIS WHEN IT HAPPENED. HOWEVER, I DON'T SUPPORT ONE COUNCIL CHANGING SOMETHING THAT ANOTHER COUNCIL DID TO THREE YEARS PREVIOUSLY. WHATEVER THIS COUNCIL VOTES ON TONIGHT OR IN THE FUTURE, WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED. ANOTHER COUNCIL COMES ON IN MAY. THEY CAN REDO THAT TO ME. THAT JUST SAYS THAT YOU, THE, THE STABILITY OF THIS CITY IS AT STAKE. THE, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO A MONTH AGO WE TOOK THIS OFF OF THE AGENDA TO GIVE OUR NEW CITY ADMINISTRATOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESEARCH THESE PROPERTIES TO COME BACK TO US. WE ALL AGREED TO THAT, TO COME BACK TO US WITH THE COST ANALYSIS OF WHAT IT WOULD COST IF THEY WERE REMOVED FROM THE CITY. WE ALSO WANTED TO SAY THERE MAY BE SOME PROPERTY OWNERS WHO, WHO ARE ON THIS LIST WHO WANT TO REMAIN IN THE CITY. WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEM OFF IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE REMOVED. SO WE SAID FIND EACH WHAT EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES WERE. WHAT'S THE TAX BASE REVENUE THAT WOULD BE LOST FROM THE CITY AND TO SEND A CERTIFIED LETTER TO THOSE HOMES. AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IN ONE MONTH, THIS COMES BACK. AND SO I WILL ASK, HAVE, HAS THERE BEEN ENOUGH RESEARCH? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE COST ANALYSIS ARE FOR THE TAX REVENUES FOR THESE CITIES, THESE PROPERTIES? THERE'S BEEN NO RESEARCH. IT WAS OUR OPINION. THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKE REGARDING THIS. WE DID REQUEST THE 'CAUSE I WAS THE ONE WHO REQUESTED IT. WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD BE THE COST ANALYSIS FOR REMOVAL OF THESE PROPERTIES AND WHETHER OR NOT THESE CITIZENS WANTED TO REMAIN IN THE CITY OR TO BE REMOVED. RIGHT. BUT THERE WAS NO, THE COUNCIL DIDN'T VOTE TO GO DOWN. OKAY. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT IN THERE. UM, MAYBE WE DIDN'T VOTE BECAUSE I SAID I WANTED TO TABLE IT AND OUR OUR LAWYER SAID YOU CAN'T TABLE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GIVE A CERTAIN DATE FOR IT TO COME BACK. MS. JACOB, YOU'VE MADE THE COMMENT. MS. JACOBS HAS A RIGHT, THAT'S TRUE. YOU CAN ONLY, YOU CAN ONLY TABLE SOMETHING TO A SPECIFIC DATE. THAT'S RIGHT. I DIDN'T SAY YOU COULDN'T DO IT, BUT YOU GOTTA DO A SPECIFIC DATE. THAT IS CORRECT. AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I I SAID THREE MONTHS AND THE COMMENT WAS MADE. I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE IT DONE IN THREE MONTHS. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ME, I THINK THIS IS JUST A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME. AND WE'RE GOING BACK OVER THINGS. OVER AND OVER AND OVER. UH, YOU SAID PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED TO BE OUT OF THE CITY OR IS THAT IN WRITING? DO YOU HAVE PHONE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE DOCUMENTED? HOW ARE THEY, HOW HAVE THEY REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CITY? OKAY, SO WHAT WAS YOUR COMMENT TO THEM? DO YOU HAVE THEIR NAMES? DO YOU HAVE THEIR ADDRESS? DO YOU KNOW WHICH ORDINANCE THEY BELONG TO? MM-HMM . OKAY. THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO OUR CITY ADMINISTRATOR SO THAT THAT CAN BE DONE IN DOCUMENTATION. [00:50:01] THERE MAY BE OTHERS. NONE. NONE OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE RECEIVED ANY SERVICES. IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS. IF I MAY, THE CITY HAS ONE A HALF. IF I MAY. JUST A MINUTE. THE CITY HAS ONE AND A A HALF. NO. IF I MAY, I THINK EVERY INDIVIDUAL THAT GOT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY SHOULD MAKE THEIR OWN APPLICATIONS TO BE GET IN THE CITY OR GET OUT. WELL, THEY DIDN'T GET THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY. SEE? GEEZ. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. NOBODY GOT NOTIFIED. SO NOW THEY'RE GONNA GET NOTIFIED. LET'S DO THAT. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S GONNA DO THAT, OR, OR THE PLANNER. THEY SEND THE LETTER, I'M READY TO VOTE. NO, NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT. SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT TALK TO ME THAT SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT GET BACK IN THE CITY. AND THERE'S SOME THAT WANTED TO, WELL, MR. HOLLA SAID THAT THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH THIS WOULD BE TO CONTACT EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER. SO WHERE'S THE CONTACT? SO WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU'VE CONTACTED ALL THESE PEOPLE? I, I'M NOT THE ONE THAT WOULD BE DOING THAT. TALKING ABOUT THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION TO HER THAT SHE COULD DO AT THIS MEETING IS SEND SOMETHING. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BROUGHT BE BROUGHT INTO US TODAY ON THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT OR WANT TO GET OUT IN THE CITY? SIR, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. WELL, HOW ARE WE GONNA VOTE FOR SOMETHING AND WE DON'T HAVE NO INFORMATION ON WHO WANTS TO STAY OR WHO WANTS TO GET OUT? I DON'T KNOW THE VOTE. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE VOTE. I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR IDEA, WHICH IS THE EXACT SUGGESTION I MADE TO MS. TURNER. YOU COULD SEND A LITTLE FORM TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON. WELL, IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. YEAH, I I NO, I I'M I'M GIVING YOU A PRACTICAL WAY TO IMPLEMENT YOUR IDEA, SO I DON'T YEAH, WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO COME BACK TO THIS AND LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE WHERE THEY WANNA BE. BUT DO WE KNOW ALL THESE PROPERTIES? WE HAVE ORDINANCE NUMBERS, WE DON'T HAVE PROPERTY ADDRESSES. I HAVE THEM. WELL, YOU NEED TO GET DOESN'T TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR. I HAVE THEM. SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION. SAY, HEY LOOK, I WANNA MAKE A MOTION. NORMALLY DON'T DO THIS. BUT IT'S, I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. UM, HEY, I MAKE A MOTION DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE FORMS, WHICH THE ADDRESS YOU HAVE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WANTING TO VOTE ON. TO, TO SEND EVERYBODY NOTICES ASKING IF THEY WANNA BE IN THE CITY OR NOT. YOU, YOU CAN DO THAT. I THINK THAT, I STILL SAY THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE RESEARCH ABOUT WHERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE. ARE THEY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? ARE THEY IN OUR FUTURE LAND USE AS FUTURE COMMERCIAL? NO, ALL THE BUSINESSES WERE ALLOWED TO STAY OUT BECAUSE THEY HAD LAWSUITS. YEAH. I ONLY KNOW OF TWO BUSINESSES THAT WERE ALLOWED TO STAY OUT. BUT THEY, YES, THEY FILED, THEY MET THE DEADLINE AT THAT TIME. AND I FROM THIS WAS YOU AND ANOTHER PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER THAT BROUGHT THIS UP TO THE COUNCIL AND SAID IT WAS LEGAL. IN FACT, THEY COULD NOT GET OUT AND COULD NOT FILE AGAINST IT ONCE IT WAS APPROVED THAT A LAWSUIT, A FEW POTENTIAL LAWSUIT WOULD NOT PASS, WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. MM-HMM . SO MY QUESTION IS, YES, I AGREE. IF THEY WERE BROUGHT IN, I AGREE WE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT 'EM, GIVEN THEM AT LEAST THE WATER TO THE END OF THEIR STREET, FROM THEIR HOUSE TO THE STREET. THAT'S UP TO THEM TO PAY FOR. BUT IF THEY ARE HERE AND THERE'S NO WATER ON THEIR STREET THAT'S ON THE CITY, HOWEVER THEY ARE, WERE BROUGHT INTO THE CITY LIMITS, UH, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE BE TAKEN OUT WITHOUT SOME KIND OF A BETTER RESEARCH AND DOCUMENTATION. WELL SEE. YOU'RE BRINGING UP SOME GOOD POINTS, WHICH IS WHAT I ADDRESSED. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THESE WERE NOT ANNEXATIONS. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. WRONG. THEY'RE UNDER COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STATUTES. THIS IS 41 0 3 A AND B ANNEXATIONS ARE UNDER CHAPTER 43. THAT'S CALLED THE ANNEXATION CHAPTER. AND THERE WERE ISSUES ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE THIS OR DIDN'T HAVE THAT MAYBE THEY HAD SOME SERVICE, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? AND IF Y'ALL REMEMBER MY ADVICE, OR AT LEAST THE ONES WERE ON COUNCIL, WHAT WAS MY ADVICE? JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING. NOW THE COUNCIL HAS A RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DECIDE. AND THIS IS WHAT COUNCIL DECIDED TO DO. AND SO THOSE ARE SOME ISSUES. NOW, THE LAWSUITS, THOSE LAWSUITS WERE FILED FROM THE TIME WE POSTED THE AGENDA ON MONDAY BEFORE THE MEETING ON THURSDAY. OKAY. AND AFTER THAT, THE ONES THAT WERE PASSED ON DECEMBER THE FIRST 2022 AND JANUARY 19TH, 2023, IF THERE WAS NO LAWSUIT FILED IN THE 72 HOURS, WHICH IS THE OLD LAW OF THE MEETING, THEN THOSE ARE PRESUMED VALID. I GOT 41 0 3 I COULD PULL UP AND IT SAYS YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T SUE, YOU CAN'T CONTEST IT FOR ANY REASON. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU DIDN'T GET ANY SERVICES BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE IS PASSED, THE IR REBUTTABLE MEANS YOU CAN'T REBUT IT. THE IR REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION IS YOU GOT THE SERVICES, IT DOESN'T MATTER ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF PEOPLE GOT SERVICES OR WERE GETTING SERVICES OR NOT. ONCE THE ORDINANCE PASSED, [00:55:01] IT DECIDED FOR ALL TIME THAT THEY GOT SERVICES. 41 0 0 3 3 A ENDS WITH, AND THIS MAY NOT BE CONTESTED FOR ANY CAUSE. DOESN'T MATTER. CAN'T CONTEST IT. NOW YOU ALSO HAVE TO READ IN ACCORDANCE WITH OTHER LAWS, LOOK AT 51 0 0 1 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH ALLOWS CITIES TO NOT ONLY PASS, ADOPT, AMEND, OR REPEAL ANY ORDINANCES THAT THEY WANT TO. SO FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, YES, THE COUNCIL HAS THREE OPTIONS TONIGHT. THEY CAN DO, DO NOTHING IN TERMS OF THE ORDINANCE. AND THEY CAN TAKE MR. COMPOST'S, UH, IDEA, UH, CORRECT MY MISTAKE ALIKE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THEY TAKE MR. COMPOST'S IDEA AND THEY COULD SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA ASK THESE PEOPLE IF THEY WANNA BE IN THE CITY OR NOT. THE SECOND OPTION IS THEY CAN, UH, JUST REPEAL ALL OF THEM. OR THE THIRD OPTION YOU HAVE IS YOU COULD REPEAL SOME AND NOT OTHERS. THOSE ARE IN ESSENCE YOUR THREE OPTIONS. NOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOUR DECISION, YOUR CALL, YOUR RIGHT. BUT THAT'S IN ESSENCE A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE LAW. I MEAN, IT'S NOT VERY LONG. IT'S NOT VERY LINE, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. ONCE THE ORDINANCE ARE PASSED, THAT'S IT. BUT HAVING THE, AGAIN, MY ADVICE, JUST 'CAUSE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING. I REMEMBER MS. JACOBS ABOUT THAT AND I UNDERSTOOD WHERE SHE WAS COMING FROM. AND SO MOST CONCERNS SHE JUST BROUGHT UP. NOW SHE BROUGHT UP THEN. SO NOW IT'S UP TO Y'ALL TO DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT. IF AT ALL, I'D LIKE TO REMOVE THEM ALL. NO ONE RECEIVED SERVICES. NO ONE RECEIVED ANY KIND OF NOTICE. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE CITY. THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO BRING THEM SERVICES. AND I'M READY TO TAKE 'EM OUT. WELL, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA, BUT I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF, I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF ASKING THEM AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. WE ARE HERE WITH THIS. THEY DIDN'T ASK US WHEN THEY TOOK US IN. WELL, I KNOW THEY DIDN'T. AND BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THAT TIME YOU DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION, BUT NOW YOU'RE GONNA GET THE INFORMATION AND YOU'LL HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT WANT ANNEX OR DE ANNEX AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME, SOME, SOME FACTS. AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. UM, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE DISRESPECTFUL TO ANYBODY TO ASK THEM. YEAH. AND, AND IT, AND, AND IN THAT, IN THAT LIGHT, WE WOULD STILL ACCOMPLISH WHAT MS. TURNER WANTS TO HAVE. THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANNA BE IN THE CITY WON'T BE IN THE CITY, BUT LET'S JUST GIVE THEM THE COURTESY TO ASK THEM. THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT WE CAN, WE CAN DO WHAT MS. TURNER WANTS HER TO DO, BUT EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE OUT. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A PICK AND CHOOSING IF YOU THESE WANT EVERYBODY OUT. IT'S EVERYBODY OUT THAT GOT IN AND ALL THESE WHERE WE'RE SKIPPING ALL THESE LETTERS YES. FOR THESE OTHER PEOPLE. EVERY, EVERY ONE THAT CAME IN NEEDS TO, EVERYBODY GOES OUT. IT WAS DONE BY LAW. AND THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL SAID. AND WE GOT ANYBODY TO JUST PICK AND CHOOSE NOW UNLESS WE DO, WHICH I DO LIKE, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO LOOK UP EVERY ONE OF THE PROPERTIES TO SEND A NOTARIZED STATEMENT TO RECEIVE IT BACK, GIVING THEM 14 DAYS TO RESPOND MAYBE. AND HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE? I DON'T KNOW. THERE IT IS. ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YOU GET INTO IT AND, AND THINGS START MUSHROOMING, THINGS YOU DIDN'T THINK ABOUT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IS THE, A LOT OF TIMES THE, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY RECORDS AREN'T ACCURATE. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SORRY TO SAY THIS, BUT SOME OF THEM PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NO LONGER LIVE HERE, MOST OF THEM DON'T. THEY JUST OWN THE PROPERTIES. NO, THEY'RE, AND I'LL MAKE A COMMENT OF SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS HAPPENED AT ENNI AND THERE WERE SOME IN THE CITY AND THEY WERE REMOVED AND THEY NO LONGER HAVE FIRE INSURANCE PROTECTION ON THEIR HOME. SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED. IF YOU'RE IN THE CITY, YOU DO GET FIRE PROTECTION. IF YOU ARE REMOVED FROM THE CITY, YOU NO LONGER HAVE FIRE PROTECTION. AND THAT IS VERY VALUABLE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO BUY HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE. GO TRY IT. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. THEY'RE LOOKING, THEY'RE HOMEOWNERS. INSURANCE WILL MORE THAN DOUBLE. OKAY. UM, BEING ONE OF THE TWO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MS. JACOBS REFERRED TO, I DO HAVE A KIND OF A PERSONAL INTEREST IN THIS. AND WE WERE NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY IF WE WANTED [01:00:01] TO BE IN OR NOT. WE WERE JUST NOTIFIED THAT THEY'RE TAKING US IN THE CITY. AND SO, UM, I THINK OUT OF DUE RESPECT TO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE POSSIBLY IN THE CITY AND DIDN'T WANNA BE, I THINK EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T ASKED TO BE TAKEN IN, I THINK THEY DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR OPINION BY THE, BY THE NOTICE THAT, THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED. AND THE ONES THAT WANT IN CAN STAY IN AND THE ONES THAT WANT OUT CAN GET OUT. AND THEN WE CAN PUT THIS TO BED. I DON'T SEE THE POINT IN ARGUING OVER WHO, IF YOU WANT IN, BE IN, IF YOU WANT OUT, BE OUT AND BE DONE WITH IT. SO I MOVE THAT WE ASK THE STAFF TO CONTACT THESE PEOPLE AND UM, WITH EVERY FORM THAT THEY COME UP WITH, THAT THEY REMAIN IN THE CITY, EXCUSE ME. AND DETERMINE IF THEY WANT TO REMAIN IN THE CITY AND DETERMINE IF THEY WANT TO REMAIN IN THE CITY WITH A 14 DAY, UM, RESPONSE. RESPONSE. AND THEN WE'LL BE DONE WITH THIS. AND I SECOND, CAN IT BE DONE IN 60 DAYS OR WOULD WE NEED MORE TIME? TWO MONTHS? YEAH. I DUNNO. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO EXTEND IT? WELL, I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE HE'S SAYING IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO DO THIS HISTORY. WE'VE GOT, IF WE'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING, WE NEED TO PUT A DEADLINE ON IT. A TIMELINE SAID OF THIS WILL BE DONE. I SAID 14 DAYS. THAT'S FOR RESPONSE. HOW, WHAT TIME ARE WE GOING TO USE TO SEND, WE HAVE OH, TO SEND THEM OUT DECEMBER. SORRY, I, OR WHATEVER MISUNDERSTOOD. UH, CAN, CAN IT BE DONE BY MARCH 31ST? BY THE END OF MARCH? I MEAN, WE CAN TRY. I MEAN I'M NOT, I'M NOT GOING TO SEE IT, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE ISSUES. AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THESE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED. THEY'RE RIGHT HERE. I'M TALKING ABOUT FROM A MAP STANDPOINT, AND I BRING THIS UP, THAT IF WE'RE GONNA START ALLOWING CHERRY PICKING TO GO ON, THEN THERE'S A CRIME COMMITTED AT A HOUSE THAT'S 200 FEET FROM SOMEBODY THAT'S IN THE CITY. DO YOU THINK OUR OFFICERS JUST, SORRY, I SIT HERE AND JUST WAIT FOR THE COUNTY TO SHOW UP. SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WILL SHOW UP. YEAH, MAYBE, MAYBE 20 MINUTES THEY'VE SHOWN UP FOR ME FOR 48 YEARS. WELL, I'M JUST SAYING HISTORICALLY AND WITH COUNTIES THEIR RESPONSE TIME IS NOT WHAT THE CITIES ARE. SO I'M JUST SAYING THEN IT'S GONNA GET INTO OTHER ISSUES. UM, IT THERE AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER. UNINTENDED COMP. SO, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'LL TRY EVERYTHING WE CAN. IF WE HAVE TO GET SOME OUTSIDE HELP, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. WELL, ANOTHER REASON WHY THIS MAY BE A GOOD ROUTE IS THAT NO DECISION IS MADE TONIGHT, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WHAT IF WE FIND OUT THAT 92.4% OF THE PEOPLE WANT TO STAY IN THE CITY? OR ON THE OTHER HAND, WHAT IF WE FIND OUT THAT 94, 92 0.4% OF THE PEOPLE WANNA BE OUT OF THE CITY? TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE BEFORE THEY MADE A DECISION ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND, AND IF I MAY, ABOUT A MONTH OR A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, THERE WAS A, A LADY HERE FROM ON MARS ROAD THAT WANTED TO GET ANNEXED INTO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY WERE TIRED OF CARRYING WATER AND HAVING TO EMPTY OUT THEIR SEPTIC TANK, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEY WERE, OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW IF THEY WANT TO GET IN OR GET OUT. WOULD'VE BEEN, I WOULD GO BACK. IT WOULD'VE, IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER PEOPLE. WE DIDN'T DO THIS MA'AM. WE WEREN'T HERE, OR I WASN'T, MAY I MAKE A MODIFICATION TO, TO YOUR MOTION. GIVE THEM UNTIL MARCH 31ST TO RESEARCH ALL THE PROPERTIES AND TO SEND THAT NOTICE OF THAT. OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION. ARE YOU, I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY. I COULD IF I MAY, GO AHEAD. OKAY. UM, I DON'T THINK LINDA AND I WERE ON THE COUNCIL WHEN THESE BY THESE YOU WEREN'T. I WAS THE ONLY OF THESE. I WAS THE ONLY PERSON YOU WERE ASKING US TO LEAVE OUT. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. STEP DOWN. NO, I WASN'T ASKING YOU TO. I WAS ASKING THE TWO THAT HAD PROPERTIES THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, THAT WERE ZONED INTO IT. AND I STILL THINK I MIGHT HAVE THAT, BUT I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE THAT ANYMORE. IT WAS JUST EMBARRASSING. WHEN I WAS ASKED TO LEAVE, SHE WAS ASKING MY COMMENT, MY MODIFICATION TO, UH, MS. LELAND'S MOTION IS TO HAVE CITY STAFF RESEARCH THESE PROPERTIES AND A NOTICE SENT BY THE 31ST, GIVING THEM 14 DAYS, 31ST OF MARCH, MARCH 31ST OF MARCH, I'M [01:05:01] SORRY, MARCH 31ST, 2026. GIVING THEM 14 DAYS TO RESPOND OR RESPONSE WOULD NEED TO BE RECEIVED BY APRIL THE 14TH, WHICH WOULD HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR US AT OUR SECOND APRIL COUNCIL MEETING. SOUNDS GOOD. AND DO WE, DO WE NEED TO DETERMINE, IF WE DO NOT RECEIVE RESPONSE, THEN, THEN WHAT'S MICHAEL? THAT'S, WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DEAL WITH AT THE TIME. I, I WOULD SAY LET'S WAIT AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE RESPOND FIRST AND THE NOTICE IT WILL ACT, ACTUALLY HAVE TO SAY THAT THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY OF THE CITY SERVICES. THEY WOULD LOSE FIRE IN POLICE PROTECTION MAINLY. UM, AND, AND I GUESS JUST TO, THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. UNINTENDED CONS MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY BRINGING UP A COUPLE OF GOOD SUGGESTIONS HERE. THEN YOU GET INTO THE QUESTION OF YOU, YOU ASK IT, DO YOU WANT TO BE IN THE CITY? YES OR NO? WELL, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. WHAT DO, WHAT DO I HAVE BEING, SO, I MEAN, DO WE START GETTING INTO EXPLAINING IT AND MAKING SURE LEGAL'S FINE WITH US NOT SELLING IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? I MEAN, AGAIN, THESE, I THINK THE ATTORNEY'S CORRECT. I THINK LET'S GET ALL THIS INFORMATION, GET SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AFTER WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCELLOR. I HAVE FATHER, WILL WE BE REQUIRED TO REFUND THEIR TAXES FOR 24 AND 25 YEAR? NO. OKAY. 'CAUSE IN THE PREVIOUS LAWSUIT THAT SHE READ, JUDGE DID DECLARE THAT SHE HAD TO, AND THAT WAS, AND YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT THAT WAS AN ANNEX. OKAY, SO THIS IS DIFFERENT. SO IT'S JUST POTENTIAL TAX IN THE FUTURE. CORRECT. TECHNICALLY WE HAVE A MOTION, IF I MODIFIED HER MOTION, DID THAT IT, THEN IT, WE HAVE TO GET ANOTHER SECOND. SECRETARY GOT IT DOWN. OKAY. RULES OF ORDER. EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE WHOLE THING YOU MEAN? YOU MEAN WHAT THEY'RE DOING? MM-HMM . OKAY. SO THEY'RE GIVING STAFF A DEADLINE TO MARCH THE 31ST TO SEND OUT BASICALLY A SURVEY TO EACH PROPERTY OWNER SAYING, HEY, YOU WERE TAKEN INTO THE CITY, INJURIES WERE ADJUSTED. SOME CASES DECEMBER THE FIRST, 2022 OTHER CASES OF JANUARY 19TH, 2023. UM, THE COUNCILS CONSIDER REPEALING ORDINANCES. DO YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE CITY? YES OR NO? SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS THE STAFF TO SEND OUT BY MARCH THE 31ST. THEY HAVE A 14 DAY RESPONSE TIME TODAY ON IT, OR THE SURVEY WILL SAY ON IT, RESPOND BY APRIL THE 14TH. DO YOU THINK? AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT CERTIFIED? I I I'M ALWAYS A FAN. I'M GONNA SAY YES TO THE CERTIFICATION. YES. I'M A BIG FAN. CERTIFI, YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO IT WOULD NOT CHANGE ANYTHING UNTIL, RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. THIS IS NOT, THEY, THEY WOULDN'T BE VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT. IT WOULD BE BACK UP PRESUMABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND THE 20TH, 19TH TO 21ST, WHATEVER THE THIRD. RIGHT? OKAY. THEN I NEED A MOTION. WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ALREADY. WE NEED TO VOTE. I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE DOWN. SO THAT'S THE REASON I'M ASKING. WHO MADE THE MOTION? MOTION? I MADE THE MOTION AND, OKAY. AND MS. JACOBS MODIFIED IT AND MS. JACOB MODIFIED IT. INCLUDE THAT BY NEGATIVE VOTE. YES. YES, YES, YES, YES. IT PASSES FIVE TO ZERO AT, [01:10:02] AT THIS TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, SIR. OKAY. JUST SAY WHICH ITEMS AND UNDER WHAT SECTION WE'RE GOING IN. UH, IT'S GONNA BE 11 AND 12 AND IT'S DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE ITEMS. 5 5 1 0 7. MM-HMM. WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THEM. WE ARE NOW RE REASSESSING AT EIGHT 10 FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. SHE SIGNED UP, SHE WANTS TO KNOW IF SHE CAN, UM, MAKE HER COMMENTS BEFORE EXECUTIVE SESSION. SHE'S, AS FAR AS I KNOW, SHE SIGNED AGENDA ITEM. YES. SO IF YOU WANT GO AHEAD MA'AM. WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR ITEM 11 AND ONE FOR, UM, ITEM 12. SO THE FIRST PERSON TO SPEAK ON ITEM 11 WILL BE ALEX STEWART. ITEMS ARE NOT, I'M TAKING THEM INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. I CAN DO THAT, SIR. OKIE DO. HELLO, MY NAME IS ALEX STEWART. MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 2 1 6 GALLWAY DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 8. HOW MANY MINUTES DO I HAVE? COULD YOU SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BABY? YES. IS THIS BETTER? YES. ON . OKAY. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT. MY NAME IS ALEX STEWART AND I REPRESENT STEAM STREAM DATA CENTERS. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THE EFFORT THE CITY HAS PUT INTO REVIEWING THIS PROJECT, AND WE VALUE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. WE UNDERSTAND THE AGENDA ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT RELATES TO AN UNCONFIRMED PROCEDURAL ISSUE TIED TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ZONING REZONING IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR. WE WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT WE FULLY BELIEVE ALL NECESSARY STEPS WERE TAKEN. THIS WAS ALSO CONFIRMED ON THE RECORD BY THE CITY OFFICIALS IN PLACE AT THE TIME MEMORIALIZED IN THE MINUTES AND BY OUR TEAM THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS. OUR PURPOSE TONIGHT IS NOT TO DEBATE THE PROCESS, BUT TO REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO WORKING COLLABOR WHOA COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY IN A CONSTRUCTIVE AND TRANSPARENT WAY FROM THE BEGINNING, OUR GOAL HAS BEEN TO MORE THAN, TO BE MORE THAN JUST A DATA CENTER IN THE CITY. WE STRIVE TO DEVELOP FACILITIES THAT COMMUNICATE THAT COMMUNITIES CAN BE PROUD OF PROJECTS THAT ARE THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED, WELL MAINTAINED, AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. MODERN DATA CENTERS ARE QUIET, LOW TRAFFIC, AND HIGHLY SECURE FACILITIES, AND WE PLACE A STRONG EMPHASIS ON SAFETY, RELIABILITY, AND ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY. WE TAKE PRIDE IN HOLDING OURSELVES TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, SITE DESIGN, AND LONG-TERM STEWARDSHIP. THIS INCLUDES CAREFUL ATTENTION TO AESTHETICS, NOISE, WATER USE, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, AND OVERALL COMPATIBILITY WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. WE'VE ALREADY HAD A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE AT STREAM ARE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPERS AND LONG-TERM PARTNERS. TO THAT POINT, OUR EXISTING CAMPUS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET PAID APPROXIMATELY 1.2 MILLION IN TAXES FOR 2025. AND THAT IS WITH ONLY A PORTION OF THE CAMPUS BUILT OUT. AS ADDITIONAL PHASES ARE DEVELOPED, THE TAX CONTRIBUTION WILL GROW ACCORDINGLY. DATA CENTERS PROVIDE A MEANINGFUL AND STABLE TAX BASE FOR CITIES WHILE PLACING MINIMAL DEMAND ON LOCAL SERVICES. THEY GENERATE SIGNIFICANT TAX REVENUE WITHOUT CREATING STRAIN ON SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SAFETIES, ROADS, AND OTHER CITY RESOURCES WHICH ALLOW COMMUNITIES TO BENEFIT FINANCIALLY WHILE MAINTAINING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. IF THERE'S SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH THE APPROPRIATE STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TO LISTEN AND WORK TOGETHER TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S GOALS AND COMMUNITY'S EXPECTATIONS. OUR INTENT IS TO INVEST HERE FOR THE LONG TERM AND DEVELOP A PROJECT THAT REFLECTS POSITIVELY ON THIS COMMUNITY FOR YEARS, YEARS TO COME. ONE THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO AGREE THAT THE PREVIOUS DECISION THAT APPROVED ZONING IS UPHELD SO WE CAN CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER TOWARDS A PROJECT THAT BENEFITS THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS. IN OCTOBER OF 2024, STREAM HOSTED A TOUR OF OUR DATA CENTER FACILITY FOR THE MAYOR, SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY STAFF, SO THEY COULD SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT AN OPERATING FACILITY LOOKS LIKE, FEELS LIKE, AND SOUNDS LIKE SINCE THAT TIME, WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF HAVE CHANGED, AND WE WOULD SINCERELY WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE CURRENT COUNCIL AND STAFF TO TOUR THAT FACILITY AS WELL. UM, SHOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME CONSIDERATION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE, UM, ANTHONY NER. [01:15:04] GOOD EVENING MAYOR. AND WELL, LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF FIRST. ANTHONY NER WITH STREAM DATA CENTERS ALSO, AND I RESIDE AT 3 2 4 SUTTON PLACE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS. THANKS, SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ABOUT STREAM DATA CENTERS AND THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE ARE PROUD THAT WE HAVE BUILT WITH THE CITY OF WILMER AND THE DATA CENTERS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BUILT HERE. UM, STREAM DATA CENTERS. WORKED WITH CITY LEADERS HERE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO DEVELOP OUR FIRST DATA CENTER JUST SOUTH OF BELTLINE ROAD AND JUST EAST OF SUNRISE. AND NOW WE'RE WORKING ON OUR SECOND DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT JUST NORTH OF BELTLINE ROAD, ALSO JUST EAST OF SUNRISE. ONE THING WE DID SPECIFICALLY, AND ALEX JUST MENTIONED THIS, WAS WE HOSTED A TOUR OF SEVERAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY LEADERS, UH, AT OUR DATA CENTER. THAT ONE JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN GARLAND, BUT, UH, WE DISCUSSED OPENLY OUR SPECIFIC DESIGN. WE, WE TOURED THE ENTIRE FACILITY. WE, WE REALLY WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE BUILDING AND HOW IT CAN BENEFIT YOUR CITY. UM, THE, THE DATA CENTERS WE DEVELOP ARE SAFE, THEY'RE SECURE, THEY'RE SUSTAINABLE. THEY CREATE HUGE ECONOMIC BENEFIT FOR YOUR CITY. UH, ONE THINGS WE'RE MOST PROUD OF ARE OTHER CITIES THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH AND THE, AND THE, AND THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE BUILT WITH THOSE CITY LEADERS. AND I WOULD TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY, I'LL, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE BUILT THREE DATA CENTERS IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS. THE CITY MANAGER IN RICHARDSON WAS A GUY NAMED BILL KEFLER. HE WAS THERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS. BILL KEFLER LOVES STREAM DATA CENTERS. HE LOVES, HE LOVES, UH, DATA CENTERS IN GENERAL. IT'S A GREAT USE FOR A CITY THAT EMBRACES DATA CENTERS FOR THE RIGHT REASONS. UM, AND I DID CALL BILL KEFLER AND ASK HIM TO USE HIS NAME SO YOU CAN, UH, YOU CAN CALL HIM YOURSELF IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW HIM. WE ALSO HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN ELK GROVE VILLAGE IN ILLINOIS. AND THE MAYOR, UH, IN ELK GROVE VILLAGE, WHO NOW HAS BECOME A GOOD FRIEND. UM, HE'S CRAIG JOHNSON. HE ALSO UNDERSTANDS THE VALUES OF DATA, OF VALUE, VALUE OF DATA CENTERS. AND HE HAS ENJOYED OUR RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE BUILT. WE ARE NOW BUILDING OUR FOURTH, FIFTH, AND SIXTH DATA CENTER IN ELK GROVE VILLAGE. AND IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. SO I'LL WIND THIS UP BY SAYING, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR DATA CENTERS AND, AND ALEX SAID A LOT OF THIS CLEAN, SECURE, UH, SAFE AND, AND WE'RE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT OFFERING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOUR ONE OF OUR DATA CENTERS. I I REALLY THINK IT WOULD BE ENLIGHTENING AND INTERESTING. AND, AND WE'D LIKE YOU TO LEARN MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT OUR DESIGN AND, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT OUR DESIGN. SO I GOT SOMETHING TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. YES, SIR. SO THESE DATA CENTERS, DO THEY CAUSE CANCER TO OUR, TO, TO THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE? DO THEY CAUSE I'M SORRY, CANCER, SIR. CANCER, YES, SIR. WELL, I'M ASKING THAT 'CAUSE WHEN I'M I PERSON OKAY. NOT GONNA ANNOUNCE THE NAME, BUT SHE'S GOT A WHOLE STUDY OF NO PROBLEM DATA CENTERS. I CERTAINLY, I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY PROOF IN ANY WAY THAT THEY CAUSE CANCER. I HOPE THEY DON'T. 'CAUSE I'VE SPENT A LOT OF MY LAST 25 YEARS IN AND OUTSIDE OF, AND ALL AROUND DATA CENTERS. SO I I I HAVE NEVER EVER HEARD THAT BEFORE. SO HOW ABOUT, UH, YOUR DOGS GOING WILD? DOGS GOING WILD. YEAH. YOUR DATA CENTERS FREAK OUT THE ANIMALS IN THE LIVESTOCKS , I'VE NEVER KNOWN THAT EITHER. UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT PART OF A DATA CENTER WOULD MAKE DOGS OR LIVESTOCK GO WILD. NO, I'VE, I'VE STUDIED DATA CENTERS, SIR, AND I KNOW WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING. OKAY. I'M JUST SAYING MISCONCEPTIONS ON OTHER, ON OTHER PEOPLE BRINGING IT TO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS AND MISINFORMATION ABOUT DATA CENTERS, BUT I, THE GENTLEMAN'S TALKING THERE ACTUALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH. THIS IS CITIZEN COMMENTS. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE DISCUSSION. IT'S CITIZEN COMMENTS. OKAY. THEY SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS AND A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM. SO IT'S CITIZEN COMMENTS. YOU DON'T HAVE THE DISCUSSION. OKAY. WHEN WE COME BACK, Y'ALL CAN ASK QUESTIONS. YES. HEARD. THANK YOU, SIR. CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF HIM? I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU WHEN WE BROUGHT CAN I ASK WE GO? NO, NO, NO. WELCOME TO TALK TO HIM AT ALL, BUT NOT IN RIGHT. NOT WITH US. NOT IN FRONT OF THE, WHEN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, YOU CAN TALK TO HIM ALL YOU WANT. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ONE IS, UM, MS. MALLORY MUSE, [01:20:05] MALLORY MUSE, 27 28 NORTH HARWOOD STREET. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT. OUR LAW FIRM REPRESENTS STREAM DATA CENTERS, WHICH OWNS APPROXIMATELY 140 ACRES IN THE GREAT CITY OF WILMER. TONIGHT'S ITEM CONCERNS ROUGHLY 30 ACRES GOVERNED BY THE ORDINANCE IN QUESTION NUMBER 2025 DASH 2020 D, WHICH I'LL REFER TO AS THE REZONING ORDINANCE. MY COMMENTS HAVE THREE PER THREE PURPOSES. FIRST, TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHY THE CITY CANNOT LAWFULLY VOID THE REZONING ORDINANCE. SECOND, TO REQUEST THAT NO SUCH ACTION BE TAKEN. AND THIRD, TO FLAG A REQUIRED CONFLICT OF INTEREST DETERMINATION. THERE ARE TWO CLEAR LEGAL REASONS WHY THE CITY CANNOT VOID THE REZONING ORDINANCE. FIRST, THE REZONING ORDINANCE WAS PROPERLY NOTICED AND LAWFULLY ADOPTED THE CITY'S OWN RECORDS, INCLUDING THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO PNZ. AND THE ORDINANCE ITSELF EXPRESSLY STATES THAT ALL STATUTORILY REQUIRED NOTICES WERE PROVIDED. THERE IS NO FACTUAL BASIS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD SHOWING OTHERWISE. SECOND, EVEN IF A NOTICE DEFECT IS ALLEGED, WHICH THERE HAS BEEN NONE, TEXAS LAW IS CLEAR THAT A CITY COUNCIL CANNOT UNILATERALLY VOID A ZONING ORDINANCE ON THAT BASIS. A CHALLENGE MUST BE BROUGHT BY A PARTY WITHSTANDING IN A COURT OF LAW. THIS BODY IS NOT THE PROPER FORUM FOR THAT DETERMINATION. I ALSO WANT TO FLAG FINALLY, AN IMPORTANT PROCEDURAL SAFEGUARD. IF ANY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL HAS A SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST IN PROPERTY WITHIN THE AREA OF NOTIFICATION, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 1 71 REQUIRES DISCLOSURE AND A DETERMINATION OF CONFLICT. REPEALING THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ELIMINATE INDUSTRIAL AND DATA CENTER USES AND REVERT THE PROPERTY BACK TO SINGLE FAMILY AND NO ZONING. THAT ACTION WOULD HAVE A DISTINCT ECONOMIC EFFECT ON NEARBY PROPERTIES. IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES, A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL WITH PROPERTY WITHIN THE NOTICE AREA IS REQUIRED TO ABSTAIN FROM ACTION ON ANY ITEM RELATED TO THE ORDINANCE. FOR THESE REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT ITEM NUMBER 11, NOT BE CONSIDERED. IF IT IS CONSIDERED, WE ASK THAT IT BE DENIED EXTREME VALUES, ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY AND REMAINS COMMITTED TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY, TRANSPARENTLY, AND IN RELIANCE ON THE APPROVALS THAT THE CITY HAS GRANTED TO STREAM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAD, UM, ONE MORE COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 12, UM, AND THAT I'LL JUST READ IT INTO RECORD, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AMENDING THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE BY REPEALING AND REMOVING DATA CENTERS AS AN ALLOWED USE. AND OUR SPEAKER IS MS. MALLORY MUSE. AGAIN, MALLORY MUSE, 27 28 NORTH HARWOOD STREET. I'M ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THIS ITEM ON BEHALF OF TWO SEPARATE CLIENTS. SO, UM, IN MY FIRST COMMENTS, I WILL BE TALKING ON BEHALF OF STREAM DATA CENTERS AS WELL. AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW, STREAM OWNS APPROXIMATELY 140 ACRES IN THE CITY. EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL REZO REZONED A PORTION OF THEIR PROPERTY TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. A DATA CENTER IS A PERMITTED USE BY RIGHT IN A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. MY CLIENT HAS WORKED CLOSELY AND TRANSPARENTLY WITH CITY STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD IN RELIANCE ON THE ZONING IN PLACE. ON JUNE 29TH, 2025, THE CITY APPROVED OUR SITE PLAN FOR A DATA CENTER USE ON JULY 18TH, 2025. THE CITY APPROVED OUR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR DATA CENTER USE ON JUNE 29TH, 2025. THE CITY APPROVED OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR DATA CENTER USES. ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2025, THE CITY APPROVED OUR EARLY GRADING PEN PERMIT AND LATER WE RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR TREE CLEARING FOR DATA CENTER USES. THE FOREGOING ESTABLISHES THAT OUR PROJECT HAS VESTED RIGHTS UNDER CHAPTER 2 45 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THAT THAT VESTING FRAMEWORK EXISTS TO PROVIDE CERTAINTY AND FAIRNESS FOR BOTH CITIES. PROPERTY OWNERS WHO RELY ON THOSE RULES. [01:25:01] ELIMINATING DATA CENTERS AS AN ALLOWED USE WOULD NOT STOP THE PROJECT. IT WOULD ONLY CREATE UNCERTAINTY AND DISINCENTIVIZE COMPANIES FROM INVESTING IN THE HIGHEST QUALITY MATERIALS DESIGN AND BUILDING SYSTEMS. THE RESULT WILL BE LESS PREDICTABLE PROCESS AND LOWER QUALITY OUTCOME. THESE ARE OUTCOMES THAT NEITHER BENEFIT THE CITY, NOR THE COMPANIES THAT WANNA WORK IN THE CITY. OUR STRONG PREFERENCE IS TO PROCEED UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING AND TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY TO DELIVER A BEST IN CLASS PROJECT THAT REFLECTS THE HIGHEST STANDARDS AND BENEFITS ALL PARTIES. FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT ITEM NUMBER 12 NOT BE CONSIDERED BY THIS BODY. AND IF IT IS CONSIDERED TONIGHT, WE NOTE THAT TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION TWO 11 AND YOUR OWN ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 26, REQUIRES THIS BODY TO MEET CERTAIN NOTICE AND PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN MET BEFORE. YOU CAN TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT. WE VALUE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF OF WILMER AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MA'AM. WE WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SORRY, I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. OKAY. ON BEHALF OF A DIFFERENT CLIENT. OH, ON THIS TEAM, I'M SORRY. ITEM, I APOLOGIZE. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MALLORY MUSE, 27 28 NORTH HARWOOD STREET. OUR FIRM REPRESENTS QTS, WHICH HAS SIGNIFICANT LAND HOLDINGS IN WILMER AND HAS COME TO THE CITY WITH THE SINCERE DESIRE TO BE A LONG-TERM PARTNER AND A GOOD NEIGHBOR. FROM THE OUTSET, QTS HAS TRIED TO APPROACH ITS PROJECT THOUGHTFULLY LISTENING TO CONCERNS, WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY, AND INVESTING IN WILMER IN A WAY THAT REFLECTS THE CITY'S PRIORITIES AND LONG-TERM SUCCESS. OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, QTS HAS DE DEDICATED SUBSTANTIAL TIME CAPITAL RESOURCES IN RELIANCE ON THE ZONING FRAMEWORK THAT WAS IN PLACE AND ADOPTED BY THE CITY, INCLUDING THE EXPRESS ALLOWANCE OF DATA CENTERS IN THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. BASED ON THAT ZONING, QTS HAS SUBMITTED PLATS, UTILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE APPLICATIONS, ROADWAY DEDICATIONS, WATERLINE DESIGNS, POWER REQUESTS, AND EARLY CONSTRUCTION PERMITS ACROSS MULTIPLE WILMER PROPERTIES. THESE STEPS REPRESENT REAL GOOD FAITH INVESTMENT AND CAREFUL PLANNING. THE FOREGOING ESTABLISHES THAT THE PROJECT HAS VESTED RIGHTS UNDER THE CURRENT LAW. ELIMINATING DATA CENTER USES AGAIN, WOULD NOT STOP THIS PROJECT, BUT IT WOULD CREATE UNCERTAINTY AND MAKE IT HARDER TO CONTINUE INVESTMENT AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. THIS KIND OF UNCERTAINTY TENDS TO LEAD TO LESS PREDICTABLE OUTCOMES. WHICH BENEFITS AGAIN, NEITHER THE CITY NOR THE COMPANIES THAT WANT TO WORK IN THE CITY. WE ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT DATA CENTERS CAN BE A POSITIVE ECONOMIC ASSET TO THE CITY OF WILMER. THEY PROVIDE LONG-TERM STABLE TAX REVENUE, HELP FUND AND EXPAND INFRASTRUCTURE, AND CREATE BOTH CONSTRUCTION AND PERMANENT JOBS. WHEN THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED AND COLLABORATIVELY REVIEWED, THEY CAN COEXIST WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CONTRIBUTE MEANINGFULLY TO THE CITY'S FISCAL HEALTH. WE UNDERSTAND THAT DATA CENTERS CAN RAISE REAL QUESTIONS. OUR GOAL IS NOT TO DISMISS THOSE QUESTIONS, NOT TO DISMISS THOSE CONCERNS, BUT TO WORK TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THEM WITH YOU. WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY ON DESIGN INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPERATIONAL ISSUES THAT REFLECT WILMER'S VALUES. WE LOOK FORWARD TO PROCEEDING UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING AND TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO, TO DELIVER A HIGH QUALITY, WELL-DESIGNED PRO PROJECT THAT WILMER CAN BE PROUD OF, ONE THAT BENEFITS THE CITY AND ITS SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS ALIKE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THIS BODY. THANK YOU MA'AM. [EXECUTIVE SESSION] WE WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE'RE GONNA RECESS AT 8 29. WE ARE CONVERSING BACK INTO THE OUR COUNCIL MEETING AT 9 29 MS. DOWNS. WE WILL, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 5 51 SUB CHAPTER D, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE ITEM 11, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER PROCEDURAL ERRORS IN ZONING. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 5 DASH 0 2 2 0 D, WHICH ALLOWED THE USE OF A DATA CENTER FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF SUNRISE ROAD, NORTH OF BELTLINE ROAD AND SOUTH OF PLEASANT RUN ROAD. ITEM 12, DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER AMENDING THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE BY REPEALING AND REMOVING DATA CENTERS AS ALLOWED. EXECUTIVE SESSION ONE, UH, SECTION 5 5 1 [01:30:01] 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE ATTORNEY CONCERNING, PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION REGARDING THE CASE STYLE CAUSE NUMBER DC DASH 20 23 7 3 2 E-D-D-R-D RV PARK, LLC VERSUS CITY OF WILMER, TEXAS AND MAYOR SHEILA PETTA IN HER OFFICIAL CAPACITY IN THE HUNDRED AND 92ND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. SEE WE'RE GOLDEN NUMBER 12. 1111. WELL, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY OH, MEAN 11 YOU SAY? IS THERE ANY ACTIONS RESULT? NO ACTION. YOU, YOU COULD JUST SAY IS THERE ANY ACTION AS, OH, IS THERE ANY ACTION ON NUMBER 11 OR ANY OF THEM AS A RESULT? WE GOT 11, 12, 13. WE HAVE, I MEAN, THE OTHER ONE WE HAVE, WE NORMALLY JUST GO IS THERE ANY ACTION AS A RESULT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? OKAY. IS THERE ANY ACTION IN RESULTS OF OUR, UH, MEETING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? MADAM MAYOR, THERE IS NO ACTION ON 11 OR 12. OKAY. I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO SPEAK UP, SO THEN I SPOKE UP. SO I WAS WAITING FOR 11 TO GET, OH NO, IT'S JUST ANY, ANY ACTUAL RESULT OF ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THINK YOU HAVE TWO THINGS. SO THIS IS APPROPRIATE NOW. YES, MA'AM. I MOVE THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A TOWN MEETING TO DISCUSS AN ORDINANCE FOR COUNCIL AND P AND PNCS CONSIDERATION TO REPEAL AND REMOVE DATA CENTERS AS AN ALLOWED USE. UM, AND THEN MAYBE PROPOSE A DATE AND EXPERTS TO SPEAK ON BOTH SIDES. OKAY. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. MAY I HAVE A VOTE? NO. YES, YES, YES. NO, 3, 4, 2 AGAINST. AND JUST SO THAT STAFF IS CLEAR, THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN SETTING UP A PUBLIC MEETING TO THE PUBLIC TO DISCUSS SPECIFICALLY DATA CENTERS, THOSE THAT ADVOCATE AND THOSE THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY. YES. THAT IS MY INTENTION TO HAVE, UM, EXPERTS AS SUCH TO SPEAK FOR, UM, ALL ASPECTS OF WHAT IS A RESULT OF HAVING A DATA CENTER. AND ALSO, UM, I GUESS WE NEED TO PICK A DATE AND I WAS GONNA ASK, YOU KNOW, OH, DO ON SATURDAY. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO IT ON SATURDAY. SO, AND PUBLIC, AND WE NEED TO PUBLICIZE THAT, I GUESS, IN THE MANNER THAT WE NORMALLY DO. SO DO IT ON THE WEEK THAT WE NOT, OKAY. OKAY. I I BELIEVE THERE WERE ONE MORE MOTION THAT, EXCUSE ME. THAT THERE'S, I I HOPE THERE'S ONE MORE MOTION THAT YOU WANTED REGARDING BOTTOM. THAT WAS THE ONE, WELL, THAT WELL, THERE'S ONE MORE AT, AT THE TOP. OH YES. SORRY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WE JUST KIND OF NEED TO DO THAT. I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH THE TRIAL COURT AND COURT OF APPEALS ORDER, INCLUDING PAYMENT FOR CAUSE NUMBER DC 2 21 3 7 32. MAY I GET A, I GOT THE MOTION, MAY I GET A SECOND? SECOND PLEASE VOTE. I ABSTAIN. YES, YES, YES. I ABSTAIN. THREE, FOUR AND TWO. EXTE EXT. [01:35:03] IT IS 9 35 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.